Are you taking this seriously?

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Are there any people that aren't clinically vulnerable/vulnerale taking the virus seriously?

It seems like there aren't enough people thinking "well I'm not vulnerable but I'm taking it all on board and think the pandemic is horrendous".

It's all quite soul destroying, the whole thing isn't it but I'm hoping that people are rising above the relentless boredom and realising that the restrictions are for a good cause.

I know a few people that think everything has been exagerated and before the stricter mask rules came in the other week, refused to wear one.

I'm vulnerable, but not extremely clinically vulnerable, and was wondering how many on here think it's all a waste of time because they don't think they're at risk?

@Stellaris22

I don't get the 'I don't care if I die' attitude.

How do you think family and friends would feel if you died? Or does that not factor in any more?

It's hard, it's hard for everyone. If you aren't fed up and exhausted then you're either exceedingly lucky or not following advice adequately.

I don't care if I die from covid because it's highly unlikely, and as I've very nearly died from other things and have serious illnesses that are very much more likely to kill me, I couldn't give a crap about covid - I've got much bigger fish to fry quite frankly.

@secretllama

If, for whatever reason, they opened everything up tomorrow at the current rates of infection , I'd still be in a packed bar in a minute. I just want life back and have given up caring tbh.

Many would

Our children are schooling via a laptop.

That alone is enough, regardless of my personal view, to just do as the medics ask. I listen to what the medical advisors say in the press conferences directly. MSM, YouTube videos and such like are utterly irrelevant in comparison for me.

So yes I guess I take this "seriously" but am trying to be on the level of acceptance rather than getting cross, or sad as I was last year, it achieved less than nothing.

I go along with it all and if I'm honest I'm a bit concerned about how used to living like this I've become.

I'm not feeling as stir crazy as I was in Lockdown 1. This week I have been for one long walk and collected my son from nursery twice. That's it. I'm WFH and my husband is working normally.

I think personally I will have to push myself to get back in the habit of going to places again. It makes me quite sad.

I am, but I am starting to give up hope.

I haven’t seen my parents in person since March and they’ve been very careful. Now the inevitable for someone with complex health needs and my dad is in hospital, at risk of picking up covid.

I don't think I want to start arguing with potentially suicidal people about why they shouldn't leave their children motherless. I'm not a mental health professional and I dont know what impact my words will have on strangers, or how desperate you all are feeling.

I'll leave it there, but hopefully there is at least one person in your life you can talk to if you're feeling suicidal.

Some people seem to think only Covid matters and you have to sit around in sackcloth and ashes, sobbing and shaking.

Yes, I think that mentality is damaging. We are all in a bit of a fix, no denying it. But that doesn't mean you have to think about nothing but covid 24/7 otherwise you're not taking it seriously.

I look at the people around me, some of whom I love (family and close friends), some of whom I'm just glad to have around (other people I know), and think about all the others I don't know and can't physically see but who make up the world I live in, and try to remind myself that I'm doing each and every one of them good by trying my best with this even though it's hard, and that they likewise are doing something for me and those I love by trying their best even though it's hard, and just keep reminding myself of that.

But I don't watch the daily briefings, or even the news a lot of the time. I don't spend all the time thinking about covid, I have a laugh with my kids, me and my friends get daft gifts for each other and play shit games on zoom where we all talk over each other and it descends into chaos. Doesn't mean I'm not taking it seriously, but I refuse to let it be the only thing I think about.

I think it depends where you look, & whether you use this as your basis of general compliance. There'll always be a proportion of people on both sides on the fence on MN, FB and Twitter who are very vocal, but if I look to my day-to-day life I would say compliance is pretty high.

The roads are definitely quieter, mask compliance is very high in the supermarkets I visit. I go to my local city centre office once or twice a week and it's generally much quieter on the streets.

As a result, I don't base all my news on the "noise" I see on SM.

www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/dyingage.html I have a one in 1106 of dying in the next year. I’m not ready to die yet but that’s part of life, people die in all sorts of horrible ways. 15,000 children die every day of largely preventable disease. The world is a cold, harsh place.

We've followed the rules, wear masks etc. Haven't seen my mum for months (end of august), my sisters and their kids since July apart from a brief handover of birthday cards on the doorstep etc, kids likely to bw out of school til Easter, 7 yr old started with odd habits, 16 year old not been out of the house since boxing day, dh still working so it's me and the kids 5 days a week then come the weekend everyone is that pissed off I can't wait for Monday to come back around. Our mental and physical health is suffering. Kids education suffering. I'm doing a degree and been in uni twice since September. No holiday, no pubs, nothing nice to look forwards to, no sports for the kids, no play dates.

I will do it until Easter. After that I'm done. If the government fucks up vaccine roll out and doesn't get all kids back in school vy easter I don't think they can expect anyone to keep abiding by the rules. They fucked up in December leaving London in tier 2 when they could see figures rising. Now we are all paying for it again.

They don't have much goodwill left.

To an extent. I wear a mask and I stay away from the vast majority of other people. I socialise with a couple of people though including long term bf and relative. I'm not sorry and I don't care if that makes me 'selfish and stupid,' MN favourite phrase!

@Stellaris22

I don't get the 'I don't care if I die' attitude.

How do you think family and friends would feel if you died? Or does that not factor in any more?

It's hard, it's hard for everyone. If you aren't fed up and exhausted then you're either exceedingly lucky or not following advice adequately.

Clearly you've never been suicidal. At the point where taking your own life has become a consideration, believe me, you are very convinced that everyone will be better off without you. It is the truth to you at that moment.

I read that full compliance is very low, at least in some cities near me.

I’m not clinically vulnerable.

I follow the rules because (a) I don’t want to get fined and (b) in a very broad sense, I think they’re necessary at the moment(although I do think the current farce could have been avoided).

I’m not concerned about others not following the rules. That’s they’re decision to take. I’m not a rule fanatic; I think a lot of the rules have been pointless, contradictory, communicated badly and utterly stupid.

I’m not personally concerned about catching covid - if I get it, I get it. I’d obviously rather not and I take sensible precautions, but I’m statistically very low risk. I’d be more concerned about passing it on to others but I’d do everything I could to avoid that.

I don't know anyone who isn't taking it seriously. All my friends and family are sticking to the rules, I would say 95% of the time (I'm sure there have been minor breaches like shopping when it's not really essential, or not strictly sticking to 2m when walking with a friend).

When I go shopping I see very few people not wearing a mask (maybe one). Nobody I know is clinically vulnerable, but no one really wants to be ill either. We're all fed up with it, we want life back to normal, we don't think it's been handled well, but there's an acceptance that we just have to sit it out and wait while the vaccine is rolled out and until the pressure is taken off the NHS.

I’m early 50s, no underlying conditions but I am aware that other people of my age, in the same situation, have died so yes I am taking it seriously. As a household (I have adult DC) we don’t go anywhere except for walks outside sometimes. All our shopping is delivered. I wear a mask if I do have to go anywhere, like I had an opticians appointment a while back.

We’ve been lucky, our MH has been fine. A lot of that is us being in fortunate circumstances. Which I do appreciate. However so many people have really suffered through all this so I don’t feel in any position to judge.

@borntohula

I read that full compliance is very low, at least in some cities near me.

Where are you?

Here in SE London no one without a mask in supermarket and only one person majority of time

@Moondust001

I'm not taking seriously the 500 bloody posts a day saying people aren't taking it seriously. Enough already. I sick to death of all the virtue signaling going on.

THIS!!

The overwhelming majority ARE taking it seriously stop believing every thing you read in the papers!!

It’s a very contagious virus - even masks are not 100% effective. The government and media want people to blame each other rather than face the reality were probably ALL going to get it at one point.

"Clearly you've never been suicidal. At the point where taking your own life has become a consideration, believe me, you are very convinced that everyone will be better off without you. It is the truth to you at that moment."

I don't even care how people are without me. Though the sister and best friend will be better off because of inheriting some money.

It's life. It doesn't matter to me. I get through it under normal circumstances but even then, it's not worth anything. I am trying very hard to find ways to make it worth living but there's not much to be said when you fundamentally don't care much for life anyway.

and what is the future? Care for an elderly mother? Wait for her to die? Deal with the economic fall out? Pay more tax?

It's not a good looking future. What's to stay for?

@MarshaBradyo I'm talking more about household mixing, I rarely see anyone in a shop without a mask or in a group.

@Hailtomyteeth

The security person on the door at the supermarket on Friday evening was wearing his mask below his nose. Part of his role is to encourage people to wear masks, properly. In the supermarket I saw people with masks pulled down under their chin, and a woman with a mask hanging off one ear.

People do need constant reminders.

Which supermarket and which part of the country was this?

I'm in the South West and I would say most people are complying.

At the moment we are taking it very seriously and following the rules. We have been at this for nearly a year though, sometime soon- after Easter IMO- normal life will have to resume. I won’t put DS life on hold for longer than that.

"Yes, I think that mentality is damaging. We are all in a bit of a fix, no denying it. But that doesn't mean you have to think about nothing but covid 24/7 otherwise you're not taking it seriously"

As I have said previously, this is not possible while covid is shoved down our throats all day every day.

Taking it very seriously.

In fact even more seriously than before, because I feel I have a duty to be responsible because the more people who are the faster this will be over.

So we are staying at home, exercising every day but I am not going for any 'social' dog walks now, which I was before. Most shopping online.

If we absolutely have to buy something, DS is going for us as he has had Covid so I feel is at lower risk.

We are healthy and fit late 50s, so probably medium risk.

Yes @LakeGeneva! Quite right.