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Good news part 7

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/01/2021 19:53

For all your vaccine news, treatment development stories and other positive things to make you feel there is hope for the future!
Good news only please!

Useful websites we are referring to a lot:

Government daily statistics

Worldometer for international case number comparisons

Covid Messenger for local authority figures, thanks to LittleOwl for all her hard work!

OurWorldInData international vaccination figures

Omnicalculator vaccine queue calculator NB Please don’t take this too seriously- it depends what vaccine delivery speed and uptake you estimate so it’s not written in stone.

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FourTeaFallOut · 28/01/2021 07:23

If those figures are close to being indicative then I think we really need to ask more questions about what to do with HCP and care workers who refuse to take the vaccine and, as politically and socially difficult it is, the sooner the better.

FuzzyPuffling · 28/01/2021 07:42

I agree Fourtea. It's a really difficult and sensitive subject as I don't think anyone would advocate compulsory vaccination. But for those who cannot or ( more especially perhaps) will not have the vaccine, maybe questions about front- facing roles need to be asked? No idea what the answer is.

Blerg · 28/01/2021 08:37

I hope this doesn’t sound dim, but I’m surprised there are many people left in HCPs to catch it at this stage. To be clear I totally support them getting the vaccines due to the higher level of ongoing immunity, but it surprises me that it can cut the numbers at this stage. I wonder if reinfections are more common than anticipated if that’s the case.

Blerg · 28/01/2021 08:39

Sorry my comment wasn’t v good news related but I think full understanding of the mechanism will ultimately help us all. As someone who is pretty sure they had it (pre community testing), I am concerned about reinfection for me and especially DH.

TeaInTheGarden · 28/01/2021 08:43

@FourTeaFallOut thank you so much for posting that! I knew there would be someone out there with access! Great thing to read this morning as we start another day of lockdown. Wonder why this hasn’t been reported anywhere else today? Are the telegraph known for the wit optimism? (I don’t know much at all about papers and politics and who leans where...!)

Real hope that what we are doing could be working and better than the doom mongers are saying! I soooo hope this is true- and you’re right about those who won’t take the vaccine, they really do need to try and persuade people. Very tricky situation as if you try and make it compulsory you could just make the situation worse.

TeaInTheGarden · 28/01/2021 08:45

@blerg good point, I would like to see data on how many have had the virus etc.

The article is referring more to patients catching covid in hospital I think, but of course based on the assumption they are catching it off infected HCPs....

Runforthehills82 · 28/01/2021 08:46

A bit of good news from Wales, they are now vaccinating the over 70s in South Wales. My (ECV) dad and my mum who are 73 and 74 are getting their first jabs today! I cried a little bit when the call came through yesterday, it’s such a relief!

FuzzyPuffling · 28/01/2021 09:12

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/uk-begins-bulk-manufacturing-of-new-covid-vaccine-valneva/ar-BB1d9SiQ?ocid=msedgdhp

The UK is going to start making a load of Valneva vaccines.

LetItGoGo · 28/01/2021 09:16

That's good news.

FuzzyPuffling · 28/01/2021 09:19

Our PCN has started to invite (note, "invite" not "vaccinate") the over 75s this week. So slow....I want my CEV DH to get his jab asap.

FourTeaFallOut · 28/01/2021 09:23

Yeah, it's not surprising really though, there's just over 1m cev who don't fall under the earlier age categories. If they were doing it in strict order we'd all be done on the 13, 14 and 15th of Feb.

starfish88 · 28/01/2021 09:52

It looks as though the Pfizer vaccine is still very effective against the new South African varient. Only a slight decrease in effectiveness!

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-idUSKBN29W31M

FourTeaFallOut · 28/01/2021 09:56

Good. This is all looking better than a couple of days ago.

feelingverylazytoday · 28/01/2021 09:59

This is exciting news. Uk is beginning bulk manufacture of a new vaccine
www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/uk-manufacturing-covid-vaccine-valneva-b906243.html?r
I haven't even heard of this vaccine until today.

starfish88 · 28/01/2021 10:03

@FourTeaFallOut

Good. This is all looking better than a couple of days ago.
I know, as someone who was told without a doubt 'vaccines don't reduce transmission and won't work against the mutant strains' I'm feeling pretty smug!
LetItGoGo · 28/01/2021 10:05

I'd only heard of it because it was in my neck of the woods and I'd been googling for local vaccine updates.

I read that they were slower in the race as although it's established technology it's a deactivated virus type and hence more precautions need to be taken in building the plant.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 28/01/2021 10:10

Did you notice in the press conference last night Van Tam and Vallance have changed their tune from ‘we don’t know if it will reduce spread’ to ‘we are certain it will reduce spread, we just have no way of knowing how much yet’?

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Mousehole10 · 28/01/2021 10:12

[quote starfish88]It looks as though the Pfizer vaccine is still very effective against the new South African varient. Only a slight decrease in effectiveness!

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-idUSKBN29W31M[/quote]
Brilliant news! I’ll take a slightly reduced effectiveness from the amazing over 90% it currently is

alreadytaken · 28/01/2021 10:32

I came to post the news about Pfizer working on the variants - but someone beat me to it :).

Catching covid in hospital is more likely to be from infected patients than staff. Staff will be wearing masks, people coming in from the community dont. When community transmission is high some of them are infected but not showing symptoms. You test them if you can but may not get results immediately. Meanwhile if you dont have a single room for them they go on a ward with non covid patients and if they are infected may infect the whole ward before they test positive.

So it's probably the general reduction in infection in the community causing the fall.

NHS staff may still have lateral flow tests to use up even if vaccinated, that would allow the NHS to track infections in vaccinated staff.

It's perfectly possible for NHS staff to still not have caught covid, although large numbers have certainly done so and some have been unlucky enough to have it twice.

Staff will not be vaccinated if pregnant or ttc. Some were not initially allowed vaccination because of severe allergies. I know a lot of NHS staff and the only ones I know not being vaccinated were in one of those groups. However some have only recently been offered a vaccine and that includes people working with covid patients, not all trusts had supplies for staff pre christmas.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 28/01/2021 10:56

Either way hospital cases have gone down and we know hospital/ care homes account for a large amount of cases. So yay to any reductionSmile

Yes there is slightly less might and a little more it is looking good about the transmission. Fingers crossed for when they present that evidence next month.

Nice to hear Wales sounding ok nowSmile

alreadytaken · 28/01/2021 11:13

Well NHS staff getting vaccinated means they are less likely to be off sick and more likely to be available to treat the sick - so it is good news, just have to be realistic about it probably not having much impact on transmission.

LetItGoGo · 28/01/2021 11:26

I know of people who have (very most likely) caught it from hospital staff albeit not always in hospital. It has been a major route in my personal anecdata. Plus it makes me more positive in negative times so I'm sticking with the thought it's likely to have a major effect.

TeaInTheGarden · 28/01/2021 11:31

Me too @LetItGoGo
Positive nuggets like this help me get through the day!

Pomegranatespompom · 28/01/2021 11:32

The transmission is interesting - not to make a post about me (!) but I am antibody negative, last checked in December despite commuting, working in a big London NHS trust, having contact with + patients plus half my team have been +ve (some very unwell and very sadly 3 deaths in my trust, 2 in my dept). I have no idea how I am negative with so much exposure.
I had my vaccine early Jan and continue to do twice a week lateral flow testing, all this data is being collected.
Re staff refusing vaccines - I think this is very low numbers - we've had an uptake that must be over 90% due to numbers given of vaccines given and numbers of staff in the hospital.

JemimaPyjamas · 28/01/2021 11:34

This is bloody marvellous! As is this - I am hoping other countries will start to follow over the course of the year.

www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/countries-welcoming-travellers-with-covid-vaccine-b1793651.html?amp