Endless Propaganda

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I cannot believe the endless Covid propaganda on the news channels at the moment. There doesn't seem to be any challenge to the stay at home/don't kill Gran/crying nurses narrative at all.

I am pretty disgusted by the emotional manipulation and attempts at behaviour modification going on.

Or am I being unreasonable...

@Forgetmenot157 me

There aren't a lot of easy or pleasant ways to die
Anecdotal data on this is suprisingly slim

I'm not proud of how long it took me to work that one out

Stopped watching the scaremongering news. We're sensible. We know to stay home. I don't need everything in my face all the time.

@Flaxmeadow

YukoandHiro I agree @Flaxmeadow - and who could forget the AIDS tombstone as? That scared the shit out of me as a child

Yes the big looming tombstones but I dont remember anyone compliang at the time. People rightly saw it as a public health and safety issue

Also. Who of those old enough to remember can forget "dark and lonely water". They even had the famous horror movie actor Donald Pleasance doing the voice over for that one

The whole point of them was a stark warning and they worked

Yes the big looming tombstones but I dont remember anyone compliang at the time. People rightly saw it as a public health and safety issue

Yes but it might have affected them, you know, real people. Not others. Not old people or people with ‘underlying conditions’.

This thread is horrible. It’s terrifying how ignorant and stupid so many people are.

@megletthesecond

Basil maybe they think there's a magical spare, fully staffed hospital in every town to look after the under 50's who get cancer, break their arms or have accidents 🤷‍♀️.

Are they the never used nightingales? Sorry, couldn’t resist

Exactly @BoKatan. We are still seeing mass infections in our hospitals, care homes and prisons. Across the country we are seeing unscrupulous, amoral employers forcing people into unsafe working environments and refusing to allow their employees time off to self-isolate. We're seeing people waiting 5 days+ to get covid test results back and large proportions of frontline workers testing positive and then exposing their own households.

And yet somehow people have fallen for the Boris bullshit that if it wasn't for the "rule breakers" we'd all be fine. It's absurd!

Even valance jumped on the scare waggon last night.. By saying 13 out of a thousand could die as it sounds more scary than 1.3 out of 100

You beat me to it, Dowser

My uncle ... should have just died of old age in his sleep

I'm very sorry you lost your uncle, and yes - in an ideal world this is probably how we'd all like to go
But unfortunately it's not an ideal world, and sadly some aren't that fortunate

Completely agree.

@LookToTreblesGoingTreblesGone

It is incredibly rare for an elderly person to die peacefully in their sleep. We have flu, we have cancer, we have dementia, we have heart attacks and strokes etc. etc.

My partner's gran died peacefully in her sleep at home. She was incredibly lucky at 92 to have to no illnesses. This does not happen to most people.

I know that this is about government "propaganda" but I wonder how many on here believe the propaganda from U4T?

My grandmother died 11 years ago this month. She was 86, lived in a care home and had been housebound for the previous 7 or 8 years. She had various chronic health problems which would be called "underlying conditions" if she was alive this year - basically she was very frail.

It was norovirus that finished her off, which she picked up in hospital when she was staying in to be treated for something else. Obviously I was devastated to lose my granny and my mum (her daughter) even more so. I remember us rolling our eyes at the fact that these winter illnesses spread so fast in hospitals. But it didn't occur to us to blame random members of the public for going about their business and potentially spreading winter vomiting bugs.

I totally understand that covid is more deadly than the winter illnesses we have every year and that is why we need to make extra effort to contain it. I've been following the rules. I understand the government wants to use every means possible to make sure people follow the rules and keep infections down. However, the demonising of people who are actually following the rules and doing things that we were previously told were low risk, like passing a dog walker outside or whatever, does make me uncomfortable.

@89redballoons

This is a very sensible post.

Try the Podcast 'Planet Normal'; I have seen Allison Pearson (journalist) described as a Covid Denier on here but I actually found her take to be a quite refreshing alternative view on the statistics and rationale behind the decision making.
For the avoidance of doubt, I am a mask-wearing, staying-at-home, social distancing compliant person. Not 'woo' or a denier in any way. I just appreciate and seek out independent, challenging journalism.

Most journalists can't interpret data for love nor money.

I completely agree, OP.
They’re trying to terrify people into submission.
And those who cannot be terrified get guilt-tripped in to it.
Just wait and see, once the government want to open things up again we will be bombarded with news stories about the economy and how we need to get out and spend.
Manipulation at its finest.

The same Telegraph journalist Allison Pearson who deleted a load of tweets from last October denying a second wave. Interesting.

@Wherediditgo

I completely agree, OP. They’re trying to terrify people into submission. And those who cannot be terrified get guilt-tripped in to it. Just wait and see, once the government want to open things up again we will be bombarded with news stories about the economy and how we need to get out and spend. Manipulation at its finest.

Rather this stage finally no more ‘safe’ stuff

Does anyone else remember the public information film they used show in cinemas as a drink driving deterrent? It featured a beautiful song called "I'd rather leave while I'm in Love" and showed a young girl getting dressed up for a first date with a heavy drinking young man. You can imagine how it ended. IIRC was only ever in cinemas because it was too horrific to be shown on TV. I would have been mid teens when it came out and it had a massive effect on me and most of my generation. Drink driving went from being something everyone's dad/granny/brother did to being an embarrassing and unacceptable social taboo. Same with Clunk Click every Trip. It made wearing a seatbelt common sense and normal rather that over cautious.

Maybe some current CoVid ads are OTT in a similar way but if they save lives it's worth it.

We are still seeing mass infections in our hospitals

The thing with people having infectious illnesses is that some of them will need to be hospitalised, have a look at the impact of admitting a patient via A&E with norovirus as an example. Sick people in the same area as non sick people expell particles that the non sick people inhale, cue transmission. If people are contagious with things that require you to get really get up close and personal, this isn't such an issue, as soon as something is airborne, all bets are off for anyone in the vicinity.
I am sure there are infection control mitigating factors that can be introduced to limit the risk, but I do not believe we can completely eliminate the risk of people getting sick from being around other sick people, unless we go for the nuclear PPE option for both patient and staff member, which would exclude the portion of the UK population who cannot wear any sort of PPE.

Allison Pearson is a desperate hack. Two brain cells short of Katie Hopkins.

I'll say one good thing for this thread; it's useful to be able to see all the thick, selfish morons in one place.

Totally agree op, I used to get really upset at the sobbing nurses on telly but now I’m so used to it I just feel meh

I think the people will die campaign is quite frankly ridiculous. It’s like a brass eye parody.

I remember reading an article about the Ebola outbreak in the Congo. It was saying how people didn't trust the doctors, how they thought they were the ones actually bringing the virus to the towns. I am ashamed to admit, I probably thought some arrogant Western nonsense about how ignorant and poorly educated the locals must be.

I feel a proper plonker now, though.

I've had enough of covid ads jamming my Facebook feed. I now report them as harassment

You are absolutely NOT being unreasonable. It is appalling

And the new adverts are simply appalling