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My 5 year olds future

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JuneMoonstone · 22/01/2021 21:15

I'm really worried about what the future might be for my 5 Yr old daughter due to coronavirus. Is she ever going to be able to go to dance classes with more than 6 pupils allowed per class, each standing on a circle that they can't move from? Will she ever be able to go swimming without me having to book weeks on advance and without strict, complex rules? Will she be able to complete a whole year of school without school closures? Will she ever be able to go on a school trip? Will she ever be able to go to the theatre or to see a pantomime at Christmas? I'm seriously worried about what her future will be like. Life has changed beyond recognition. Is life going to be this shit from now on, or maybe not this bad but nowhere near like it was pre covid?

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IloveJKRowling · 25/01/2021 17:19

Yes this generation of children face challengers - but what the development of vaccines has shown us is that where there is the political will massive changes can happen in a short timeframe. So the question becomes how to make the political will turn to a better future.

Agree 100%. Temps post shows the same - where there's political will amazing changes can happen, but at the moment there seems to be no political will or anyone from any political party in the UK willing to be bold and brave and anything other than totally self-serving and self-interested.

FanciedanewnameAnne · 25/01/2021 17:48

@Wingingthis

I understand- I have a 3 yo and a baby born in April 2020. I feel awful for both. And this is all my baby has ever known :( she’s never even met most of her extended family
Your baby doesn't know that she hasn't met all of her extended family. All your baby needs is the main caregiver(s) to look after her. Please try not to worry about your baby, she will be fine. Take care of yourself and she will be fine.
DenisetheMenace · 25/01/2021 21:13

Yes, excellent post, Tempsperdu, with valid points. I can only respond to the question of the importance of socialisation with other children in respect of my mum’s experience and outcome based on what she has told me.

She was something of an accident/lovely surprise 😁 because her closest sibling was 15 (very nearly 16) years her senior, the eldest 20. Mum became an auntie when she was 5. She was evacuated to Durham with her mum before her first birthday, but gran was so desperately worried about her three elder children that she took mum back to London. Her thinking was, if they went, they all went together. Consequently, mum received no schooling and had no friends as such until she was nearly 6 years old. She spent her time with adults in a multi-generational household.
She tells me she had a terribly happy childhood despite the circumstances and wouldn’t change a thing. All these decades later, she is a truly happy woman 🤷‍♀️

Fembot123 · 26/01/2021 08:02

@TempsPerdu

My mum was born into a working class south London family in October, 1939 and spent most of her first six years sleeping in the underground waiting for the raids to end, their houses were bombed out twice, male relatives away for years on end, poor temporary housing, no schooling and little decent food

This story sounds very similar to my Dad’s - also born in 1939, working class council estate childhood in East London, passed the 11+ (though left school at 15 as university wasn’t on the radar), a year’s National Service in Kenya (which he admits was pretty much a jolly spent on safari), then walked into a white-collar job in the City and stayed there until retirement. Ended up financially quite comfortable. Most of my parents’ friends tell similar stories; lots of them have now retired comfortably out in Herts and Essex. From disrupted and quite poverty-stricken beginnings they’ve all done pretty well for themselves.

The thing is, though, this cohort benefitted from the prevailing social, political and economic conditions of their time. Wartime babies though they were, by the time my Dad was starting school there was a new post-war social contract. The wartime hardships and sacrifices were recognised. The NHS and a generous welfare state was just being brought in. There was a grammar school system (whatever the rights and wrongs of this, grammars were great at the time for lifting a certain kind of bright working class kid out of poverty). My parents were entering work just as the optimism and economic boom of the 1960s was on the horizon.

As it stands, the current cohort of young people will have none of this. They will be faced with a massive - almost unimaginably large - bill from lockdown. There will be a mental health crisis, but very little mental health support available. There will be a cohort of inadequately socialised children starting school, but no additional resources on the horizon to support them. There will be many, many families where the parents are newly out of work, but without the generous safety net of the post-war welfare state. Of course, it doesn’t have to be like this, but I have little faith that our current leaders (or, to be fair, most of the current opposition) have any great vision or will to make things better in the long term for our young people. And, of course, they also have Brexit and climate change to contend with.

If the attitude of ‘kids are resilient’ becomes dominant then the resources and support for them won’t be there.

I completely agree with this. We can’t help our kids and young people unless we’re prepared to admit there’s a problem coming down the line, but at the moment many people are refusing to see it. As soon as someone tentatively suggests that we need a plan to reopen schools safely, they’re shouted down with cries of BUT THE VIRUS!; DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE?; BUT IT’S THE KIDS WHO ARE SPREADING IT! (Just read the replies to Devi Sridhar’s tweet from earlier today.) I’ve seen many mental health professionals, charity workers and child psychologists tweeting about what they’re seeing and trying to spark discussions in the wider media, but what they’re saying is either falling on deaf ears, or met with ‘Shame about the kids but people are dying/we need to protect the NHS’. Many of our kids are indeed resilient, but this isn’t just about them individually; it’s about the kind of world they’re going to be facing once this is all over. Essentially everyone’s in Covid panic mode right now, but we urgently need to switch to planning mode if we’re going to avert a further generational crisis once the pandemic itself is over.

Perfectly said.
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