Pritti Patel now saying we can't walk with another person

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Anyone see this morning today. In her interview she claimed that we should walk cycle and run alone

I understood the rules to allow a walk with one other person.

I walk my dog twice a week with a friend. Rest of the time I'm alone with dog on walks and it's the only thing that keeps me sane at the moment. Take that away and I dont think I can cope for much longer.

Make the rules clearer ffs!!!

@tatutata I really hope they find out she's been breaking her weird controlling non 'rules' herself

*@Robby*This was a care home that was hit during the first wave and lost half their residents. The residents have been vaccinated along with many of the staff but because of the scaremongering by antivaxers the young careers decline the vaccine due to fertility worries.
The residents are theoretically not at risk but the care home are unwilling to take risks.
Carers catch it in the community and take it in to the home as do relatives. Community spread is fuelled by the general population socialising.

Sorry my auto correct keeps changing carers to careers

I can't stand the racist woman, can't say I give a shit what she says tbh.
You can walk your dog with a friend, no law says you can't.
I'm wondering how many of these laws will stick once this is over.

@Rosehip10

Pritti Patel is an airhead

Priti Patel is a vindictive megalomaniac, more like.

She's a really horrible person.

The Government are constantly doing this at the moment - The law states one thing yet they advise you to do something else. They are often contradictory. Like the Christmas meet up. The law stated you could meet with external households on Christmas Day if you were in Tiers1 through to 3 yet they advised you not to mix households on Christmas day. No wonder people are so confused!

Just because people have a happy home life doesn’t mean that relationships are not a little bit strained at the moment. But while people are in denial about the cause of spread we are going to be stuck in lockdown forever.
Stretching the rules just stretches out the pandemic. Why do people feel that it doesn’t apply to them.

I think they will change it. Currently you can meet one other for exercise multiple times a day and with multiple people when we are reducing social contact everywhere else.
It was meant for exercise not socialising or to see lots of different friends.

The residents have been vaccinated along with many of the staff but because of the scaremongering by antivaxers the young careers decline the vaccine due to fertility worries.
The residents are theoretically not at risk but the care home are unwilling to take risks.
Carers catch it in the community and take it in to the home as do relatives. Community spread is fuelled by the general population socialising.

But then what do you do? Surely this is the care homes responsibility to manage who is in close contact with their residents? As you said, they are being over-cautious - doesn’t mean everyone else should suffer for months having no contact with anyone.
How long do you propose people should be locked up for? Children not in school? People’s businesses closing?
To protect people in care homes where half the staff won’t have the vaccine anyway? So now we have a vaccine, the residents are vaccinated but it’s still not good enough?
But if you want to blame it on people meeting a friend for a walk, sure, go right ahead.

@Canwecancel2020

It’s an interesting point regarding the safety of exercising alone - a lot of women I know would only run with a club/friend and not alone when it’s dusk/dark (which is pretty much all the time after work/school hours if you have to wait for another adult member of the household to get home). Therefore taking away the exercise with another person rule will take away a lot of people’s (particularly mothers and vulnerable people) opportunity to exercise and get out of the house at all. I suppose what I’m questioning is whether the government would consider exercise as such a significant contributor to transmission that its worth the impact on health and well-being ?

I think removing this exemption would be indirect discrimination. There's no evidence it reduces transmission and it has a disproportionate effect on women.

There are lots of things in this crisis that have a disproportionate effect on women, but this is easily fixed by not doing it.

@Rosehip10

Pritti Patel is an airhead

You do a great and lamentable disservice to airheads everywhere. She is way way worse than that.

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I think they will change it. Currently you can meet one other for exercise multiple times a day and with multiple people when we are reducing social contact everywhere else. It was meant for exercise not socialising or to see lots of different friends.

No you can't, it's once a day (although that is not a legal requirement - however, unlike the requirement to stay "local", "once a day" is clear).

She’s just jealous. She doesn’t have any friends.

Annoys me that people in the public eye who have worked throughout and who are socialising with colleagues and dozens of people on a weekly basis purely because they are out and about have the front to stand there and lecture to the rest of us, stuck at home and "banned" from seeing people.

Priti might think differently if she was the one stuck in the house looking at the same four walls.

@FloraFocus

No minglin'.

This! Pronounce your words properly fgs

Pritti Patel can suck my big one

the government have just announced she was talking bull

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/14/operation-blame-the-public-covid-unsafe-workplaces-coronavirus-tories

45000 individuals fined for lockdown breaches, but not a single company.

Apparently every single business/shop/workplace that is open is essential and safe.

Maybe they would find more non-essential / unsafe businesses/shops/workplaces if the police left the country parks and roadblocks and looked at where the virus is really being spread and contracted.

Robby you miss my point. The care home residents haven’t seen the faces of their carers for months, many are hard of hearing or have dementia so struggle to hear or understand why everyone is in PPE.
If a home was inspected 18mnths ago they would have been severely criticised for ignoring the residents disabilities. It would have shown a complete lack of care for dignity, and it is completely counterintuitive when providing care.

Maybe they would find more non-essential / unsafe businesses/shops/workplaces if the police left the country parks and roadblocks and looked at where the virus is really being spread and contracted.

Exactly, but they can’t do that can they? Then it would be immediate total economic collapse instead of future probable economic collapse. Better to blame the two mums meeting for a walk in the park or getting a takeout coffee of a weekend.

[quote notalwaysalondoner]@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer I'm in the south west and people are very compliant, but my husband had to go to London recently for medical reasons and was shocked at the number of people in supermarkets without masks, the number of large groups socialising outside etc. So I think it is very regionally dependent.[/quote]
I'm in the South West too and also see a lot of compliance, but then I never seem to leave the house these days. On the rare occasions that I have gone near a shop there is 100% compliance to mask wearing and people seem respectful of social distancing if they see it's important to you. My daughter lives in the student part of town and even that has calmed down a lot.

I don't understand how coffee shops can be heaving if people are just going for a takeaway. Roads are still ridiculously busy though. I do miss that aspect of the first lockdown. We live on a main road and it was like a country lane for a couple of months. Bliss.

[quote Angrymum22]**@RobbyThis was a care home that was hit during the first wave and lost half their residents. The residents have been vaccinated along with many of the staff but because of the scaremongering by antivaxers the young careers decline the vaccine due to fertility worries.
The residents are theoretically not at risk but the care home are unwilling to take risks.
Carers catch it in the community and take it in to the home as do relatives. Community spread is fuelled by the general population socialising.[/quote]
They’re about to start discharging untested patients into care homes again now. This bloody government doesn’t even learn from its own mistakes.

@Notpritiontheinside

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/14/operation-blame-the-public-covid-unsafe-workplaces-coronavirus-tories

45000 individuals fined for lockdown breaches, but not a single company.

Apparently every single business/shop/workplace that is open is essential and safe.

Maybe they would find more non-essential / unsafe businesses/shops/workplaces if the police left the country parks and roadblocks and looked at where the virus is really being spread and contracted.

This is totally the crux of it. I walked up my high street today. Estate agents is open and fully staffed; solicitors is open and fully staffed; bank, post office etc etc. Total and utter rubbish to vilify two people going for a walk outdoors when so many work places are carrying on regardless, insisting on beingthey are covid secure, and bringing all their staff in to work.

Robby you miss my point. The care home residents haven’t seen the faces of their carers for months, many are hard of hearing or have dementia so struggle to hear or understand why everyone is in PPE.
If a home was inspected 18mnths ago they would have been severely criticised for ignoring the residents disabilities. It would have shown a complete lack of care for dignity, and it is completely counterintuitive when providing care.

Angrymum I understand and I also think it’s very sad. But the spread is not being caused by two people meeting for a walk outdoors - and that, I believe, is what this thread is about?

The ‘problem’ is that some (not all) use it for socialising outside their ‘allowed bubbles’.