The amount of posters who want support bubbles banned is shocking...

[ToHellinahandbasket]

And quite frankly appalling.
Is it just me seeing a lot of this?
The many threads about further restrictions seem to all be posters suggesting things that don’t affect them and insisting those be the things that should go.
It’s a real eye opener.

I benefit from a support bubble as my son was under one on the 2nd December. I had PND and was already suffering from anxiety due to a previous TFMR which developed into quite bad health anxiety. Without my support bubble I don’t know what would have happened tbh, and I’m still not back to normal now so I dread to think how it will be if they do take them away.

I don’t get takeaway coffee but I’m not shouting from the rooftops for it to be banned. I don’t meet a friend for a socially distanced walk, but I’m not shouting about that either.

There just seems to be a very narrow minded view at the moment, I don’t know if it’s just on here, where people are airily dismissing things without a thought for how it can affect other people or their mental health or situations.

I feel like people bandied together a bit to begin with and now it’s flipped completely. It’s eye opening and seriously depressing.

Is it just on mumsnet do you think? I don’t know what I’m hoping to achieve by posting this tbh I just feel really unsettled by some of the attitudes I’ve seen on here tonight and some of the things I’ve read

I know people are allowed their own opinions, of course and that’s what is great about an online forum, but there seems to be a definite lean one way of late. I even saw a few posters proclaiming we should get the army on the streets to “manage” people and ensure that people don’t break the rules if support bubbles are stopped.

There doesn’t seem to be much compassion left :(

I agree. There’s a lot of abuse by people who think putting the word “bubble” after their particular arrangement makes it within the rules. However, let’s not throw out a very valuable baby with the bathwater.

Completely agree! The support bubbles are vital to so many people

I agree. My support bubble has been so important for me and my children.

That’s the problem isn’t it? “Bubbling” has become a catch all for breaking the rules while pretending you are within the rules. I can see why people get frustrated but don’t punish people who are following the rules and really need the support. Even if I didn’t have The issues I’ve had, having a young baby in such isolating times is hard enough and completely valid in terms of needing extra support. In the same way that single people should 100% still be able to have a support bubble - also horrendously isolating in a completely different way.

I don’t know why I’m surprised really. I think instead of starting a thread I should just come off mumsnet for a bit really

It's not surprising really. If you read much here you wold know that most posters here appear to wash their shopping and never go out unless to an urgent hospital appointment... even then they wear full PPE and self isolate for 2 weeks following it.

Well someone on here earlier said they thought supermarkets should shut. Presumably they think we would prefer to starve to death before covid gets us.

I’m genuinely starting to feel like I live on another planet. I saw a YouTube video earlier of a woman bleaching her fruit and vegetables before using them.
I hoped it was a piss take but it didn’t seem to be

Some people will only be happy when everyone's bricked up in their houses, apart from them of course because they're 'following the rules'.

You're right about it being an eye opener. I keep hearing that we're all more caring and sympathetic now but the evidence for that is a bit thin after reading a few threads.

Yep.
While I think a minority of people take the piss with support bubbles, they are vital for so many if used properly.

They get rid of support bubbles and I'll be breaking the rules . Other than a walk or trip to the corner shop and the school run when they were open I've not been anywhere or seen anyone other than my support bubble for most of the last year

I think there's a lot of abuse of support bubbles. You clearly needed the support, and many people do so absolutely should not be banned. But equally a lot of people seem to be using support bubble willy-nilly

Pure selfishness. Inability to view life from the perspective of someone less priveliged than themselves. Who think people should give up their jobs and income, make their children homeless for the greater good.

The problem with allowing support bubbles while not allowing those who cannot form one to meet with anyone of their choice outside their household under any circumstances, which would be the case if people were no longer allowed to exercise with one other, is that there are many who are not entitled to a support bubble in a greater need of external interaction than many of those who are. It is simply unacceptable to expect those in shared accommodation, many of who are living with virtual strangers who may not even speak the same language, to be able to go several weeks without any in person interaction while at the same time allow those in support bubbles to seek as much interaction as they want with their bubbled household. As it is not possible to perfectly discriminate over who needs the most support, if we cannot allow both types of mixing to continue, it is better to allow a lower amount of indiscriminate mixing than a greater amount of mixing for some and none for others. Similarly there are many people who rely on take-aways in order to get a cooked meal, either because they lack access to cooking equipment or because they are unable (as opposed to unwilling) to cook for reasons such as disability.

@PammieDooveOrangeJoof it is preferable to die of starvation than Covid maybe why they suggested it?

I think the level of hysteria and generally ridiculous suggestions on MN are disproporte to what many of the general public think. Lots of middle-class people, in safe jobs with the DH/DC living in bliss (not all by many means - but people suggesting banning support bubbles, exercise, air etc.) I think some of these posts from the first wave of hysteria made my MH spiral and I'm sure it's much the same for others. Some MN's were wet dreaming about never being able to see anyone again, much the same as now. I think I will avoid CV forum for some months as the best months of the pandemic were when I stopped reading it. It's far worse than the news and that's saying something.

*disproportionate

I agree that the problem with it is all of the families using it as an excuse to see each other rather than provide essential childcare. I know so many people who bent this rule.

Funnily enough most of those if not all who are in favour of removing support bubbles live with other people e.g family and cna hug each other.

Others like me who live alone don't have that choice and I don't have option to bubble with anyone for various reasons.

I actually thinking about it in this lockdown itll be almost 4 months before I probably can even get a hug or some form of human contact and thats if they lift restrictions by March if not then who knows

I don't know anyone living alone who wants tighter restrictions

Two weeks ago, it was schools to shut. Last week it was to throttle the key workers places at school for others (keeping theirs, natch).
This week Mumsnet is against support bubbles.
My prediction for next week is a campaign for a 8pm curfew.

It’s bizarre and disturbing isn’t it OP? I’ve read lots of this on threads tonight. People’s rationale seems to be because (some)people are abusing the support bubble rules it should be banned. Well the people breaking the rules are surely likely to continue breaking any new rule as well?! I’m in a support bubble- my family are the supporters to my uncle who lives alone- we are his only family and his only social link. His friends are in all in bubbles with an elderly parent or a child. He is also CEV. We see him once a fortnight for lunch. But some people honestly think this should be stopped. Awful. TBF lots of people also thinking support bubbles are essential and I don’t know anyone IRL who thinks this. It’s also day 6 of lockdown so I think we need to hold steady for a week or two more.

Silly me, next week's campaign will be for nurseries to shut!
Some people here think everyone can sit home all day playing board games and supervising home schooling while eating the veg they grew themselves in their garden.

There’s a lot of abuse of support bubbles. The government needs to crack down and clarify the rules. I’m bubbled with my mum and tbh if it was banned I’d just move her in with me. She can’t realistically be alone for months on end.

People absolutely need their support bubbles. Unfortunately people are either wilfully deciding to break rules or are not understanding the rules. My neighbour (who is not in a single adult household) told me yesterday she was going to visit her friends who live ten miles away but it was ok because she was in their bubble. She also told me that she was going to go to another set of friends for lunch today but she has made a bubble with them so that is also ok 😡🤦‍♀️

So sorry to read this @cyclingmad. My stepmum is in a similar position- we miss each other terribly, but as my uncle has health issues and also no internet whereas my stepmom has Skype/zoom to see us and other friends and family and is also working ( but from home so she still doesn’t see anyone) it’s the choice we made😢 My dad only died 5 months before Pandemic so it’s been V hard for her.

I know two single people who live alone who are dating and have a bubble..

I see zero issues with that .

The idea that people who live alone should have essentially zero contact, physical contact with anyone at all is awful.