Tighter restrictions? What else can be "tighter"??

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Schools closed, work places closed, nailbars, hairdressers, clothes shops, closed. My high street is dead and a couple of big shops are permanently closing down. We've been totally indoors, going out only to get grocery and exercise.

Oh, gyms are closed, no play dates, birthdays, dinners or even coffee with friends. WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE TO STOP THE SPREAD??? What would "tighter" restrictions mean? To me, next tighter level means no grocery and exercise :(

My local hospital is totally full. I don't understand why.

Many employers have refused to close this time. Last time DH’s employer was closed for 3 months. This time they’ve refused to close and have tied themselves in knots trying to claim they’re part of the construction industry and therefore allowed to be open. The government needs to crack down on businesses refusing to WFH when they could easily do so.

Whilst it’s probably a wind up from the Daily Fail, if we are only allowed out once a week I’m happy to take nominations if there is anyone people would like to to send DDog’s unmentionable waste products to.

Just popped in to tell you to save your ££. Pubs are likely to open May Bank Holiday...
And so it will all begin again imo...

If your prescription is on repeat, you’d need to order ahead anyway. The answer is don’t run out.

In my town you have to go out to physically order the repeat, then go out to the chemist 5-6 days later and hope they haven't managed to balls it up again or you'll be making another trip.

Like on Friday I went out to return something to Amazon. I'd been told in the process of arranging the return "you don't even need any packaging, just the item and the QR code!" So I took the item to the shop, and apparently it does need packaging. So I have to go back on Monday.

Once a week is a nice ideal, but may not be super practical.

@RedToothBrush The trouble is the Times and the Telegraph are behind paywalls. The Mail isnt. The Times and the Telegraph should have dropped their paywalls last March. We keep being told we are living in unprecedented times but having to be mindful of this only seems to apply to the "plebs" As this is so unprecedented, drop the paywalls

Yep You have to physically drop the prescription off at our surgery.

The ideas here scare me million times more than the virus.

Seriously, I dont believe in conspiracy theories, but seeing how people are willing to give up their rights or lock other people up those ppl do have a point.

Also, can someone tell me how are the masks helping? We didnt have masks in spring, then things got better, masks became compulsory in July and we have worse level of cases ever? I dont get it.

People should just stop feeding the Daily Fail.
They're an utter wind up merchant in all of this.

difference between legislation and non enforcable guidance now. Even if the government doesn't think we are

I think they might have twigged.

Btw I believe people were only allowed out once a week for food shopping in lockdown in China.

Give it another week. Looks like cases are levelling off and starting to drop in Scotland.

Ooh! I dunno... maybe because the last thing anyone wants to do when they're ill is move out of their own home away from their family and spend two weeks entirely alone having to fend for themselves in a place with massively limited facilities? Just a guess.

The last thing I want to do is potentially infect the vulnerable members of my household who have a much higher chance of dying or becoming seriously unwell than I do.

Why aren't we at least making it possible for people who have been identified as a contact or who have a positive test to isolate away from the rest of their household?

I don't know where you've got the idea that people would have to 'fend for themselves in a place with massively limited facilities'. We're talking about hotel rooms - those places people are really keen to book in those rare times we're allowed to go on holiday. They can't be that shit.

Hotels are used to doing room service, they have TVs in every room, it's 10 days. And it wouldn't be at all difficult to do basic daily health and welfare checks so that the minority of people who become properly unwell can be referred to medical care when they need it.

@PrimalLass

Give it another week. Looks like cases are levelling off and starting to drop in Scotland.

That's good to know

[quote Mjstjs]@PrincessNutNuts I suggest you read more carefully.

1. As I said in my post- How can someone do it online if deliveries are stopped? Some people want deliveries, click and collect and non essential aisles closed off. They want the warehouses for places like next closed again.
2. Online tends to be more expensive than in most supermarkets. Some people can’t afford online prices
3. During the last lockdown I couldn’t any vests in my son’s size online so had to get them in a supermarket.

It isn’t as easy as just saying go online.[/quote]
Fair dos.

@PrimalLass I really don’t think they are . Only low today’s as its the weekend . 1800 on a Sunday is still more than we had daily in first lockdown

Hartlepool council could close the car parks in Seaton Carew....Hords of visitors this weekend. I gave up walking my ddog and went home*
Oh the irony! Complaining about other people being out when you were! Selfish, much? Stay at home yourself, why not?

I agree about the efficacy of masks. Masks weren’t being worn last April, and now they are being worn, there appears to be no difference.

They are quite good for hiding muttering under ones breath, however.

So who goes?

Nobody if they don't want to.

Nobody will be dragged off in a van, nobody's home will be welded shut, nobody's toddler and dog will be left to look after each other until you are permitted to return home. We are not China.

Many other countries are using hotels etc. to enable people to isolate away from their household.

Only people who fail to engage their brain would jump straight to China and welding doors shut.

Only very privileged people would imagine that the world is made up of nuclear families of mum, dad and kids, or that all those young adults who can't afford to move out and get their own place have suddenly gone away, or that there suddenly aren't whole families living in one room in badly converted office blocks ...

Only complete arseholes would deny other people the opportunity to isolate properly and force them to risk infecting the rest of their household, just because they wouldn't fancy it for themselves.

New York:

www1.nyc.gov/site/helpnownyc/get-help/covid-19-hotel-program.page

My non-scientific research conducted with a sample size of just me concludes masks do make a difference. I normally have consecutive cold and cough viruses through the winter. A cold all year round to be honest. Bar a couple the DCs brought home from school last term, I've hardly had any since I started wearing a mask in May, I reckon I pick up most of them in the supermarket normally.

I think wearing masks outdoors in urban areas could make a real difference. Incredibly important that support bubbles and an allowance for daily exercise stay in place.

In the first lockdown didn't it take at least a month or more with current restrictions for things to start turning around?

It seems a bit soon, a week or so into lockdown to be calling for more and saying that it has failed.

I see the Daily Mail is doing their bit to encourage panic buying - as usual. Only allowed out once a week - more shelf stripping

I saw the daily fail once a week article. Can't see how that would be in any way feasible or enforceable unless they padlock us in our houses. My concern is that my mum will read that and have a big panic about starving to death.

Wales has stricter restrictions. Exercise can only be taken from your home for example, natonal trust places are complexity closed, national park car parks are closed.

I can see them having to bring in a curfew, shops becoming stricter on who enters (eg - one customer per trolley), more shops having to close eg home bargain type places, nurseries / childminders closing, only critical workers children allowed into school, places like vets, opticians, dentists closing expect for emergencies.

They could force the amazon warehouses to close. That would bring things to a grinding halt!