Tighter restrictions? What else can be "tighter"??

[R2221]

Schools closed, work places closed, nailbars, hairdressers, clothes shops, closed. My high street is dead and a couple of big shops are permanently closing down. We've been totally indoors, going out only to get grocery and exercise.

Oh, gyms are closed, no play dates, birthdays, dinners or even coffee with friends. WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE TO STOP THE SPREAD??? What would "tighter" restrictions mean? To me, next tighter level means no grocery and exercise :(

My local hospital is totally full. I don't understand why.

I have never screamed for anything to be closed down. I’m sorry you don’t feel you can get freedom from children in public during the day, however.

@Sitt

I have never screamed for anything to be closed down. I’m sorry you don’t feel you can get freedom from children in public during the day, however.

Around Christmas and New years, (tier 3 and 4) there were groups of non socially distanced teens everywhere especially in our shopping mall, also groups in cars which were obviously not from the same household, but this seems to be OK, anyone under 18 won't be fined anyway.

You probably haven't screamed for closures but plenty have.

Have a look at Rowland Manthorps thread on twitter. It's picked up something in stats which I don't think has been mentioned much here. That is the lack of self isolation. If we can't get that right then whatever else you do has no effect. The thread otherwise shows the evidence for good compliance this time. I don't know what the answer is for self isolation other than incentive (pay people) and also better enforcement. And track and trace of course.

What has that got to do with me? I have small children and would be restricted to only going out between 1 and 4pm I feel very sorry for the mothers (it will be predominantly mothers) of the young children in that PP’s country, who are so restricted

Over 65's and anyone with chronic illness are only allowed outside their home between 10am - 1pm, Mon-Fri.

Over 65's and anyone with chronic illness are not allowed to use public transport.

Do know over 65s work? Only allowing them out during certain hours is ridiculous!

My mum is an HCP who is over 65

@Sitt

What has that got to do with me? I have small children and would be restricted to only going out between 1 and 4pm I feel very sorry for the mothers (it will be predominantly mothers) of the young children in that PP’s country, who are so restricted

Sorry if I included all children, I was in fact thinking of the probably12-20 year olds that are old enough to go out unaccompanied in their groups and mix in cars, which strangely there are no parents on here that seem to allow this, though there are always plenty of these teens about whenever DH and I have been out. Younger children are hopefully accompanied by parents.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

Over 65's and anyone with chronic illness are only allowed outside their home between 10am - 1pm, Mon-Fri.

Over 65's and anyone with chronic illness are not allowed to use public transport.

Do know over 65s work? Only allowing them out during certain hours is ridiculous!

That would kibosh our local covid vaccination clinic as a few of the marshals are over 65.

I’m cringing at using the wrong ‘know/no’

Shame they don't just let under 20s out here just between 1pm and 4pm

Totally disagree. This confines young people to their homes for 87% of the time. They are LEAST at risk from Covid, have already missed months of normal education and socialization, and will bear the longterm consequences of the economic fallout. Children of working parents would probably miss out on that small window completely.

RLABAC how are the restrictions enforced ?

Shame they don't just let under 20s out here just between 1pm and 4pm

Yeah, brilliant idea. Let them mix freely, catch covid, and then take it back home to their vulnerable relatives, take it back to their workplace to pass it to other staff and customers, take it back to their school/university, to pass it to the staff and other students. What could possibly go wrong?

Do know over 65s work? Only allowing them out during certain hours is ridiculous!

There was a bloke in his early 80s working in the local supermarket. He's just died of COVID.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

For every person I saw using the free sanitiser as they went in, 3 dozy buggers were walking straight past it. One supermarket here even has sanitiser suspended by foot pump, still doesn’t work.

I'm not dozy but you'd see me walking past as I don't use the stuff provided in the shops, I use my own.

You'll see me walking by too, I wash my hands before I go out, and wash my hands when I get home.

I am not contributing to antibiotic resistance by using an antibac sanitiser against a virus.

I don't blame you @puffinkoala. I admit I don't always use it (although I could have happily bathed in the one outside a small shop in Lyme Regis!), but if I do I prefer to use my own.

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages That's obviously very sad but are you saying all over 65s should give up work? Who is going to pay their bills?

Support bubbles are on the governments’ agenda for being banned except for the ‘most vulnerable’ - how they work out who these people will be is beyond me and going on past evidence it’ll probably be a shambles. There’s also talk of a 6pm curfew for everyone, no matter who they are, and banning click and collect shopping.

@pam290358

Support bubbles are on the governments’ agenda for being banned except for the ‘most vulnerable’ - how they work out who these people will be is beyond me and going on past evidence it’ll probably be a shambles. There’s also talk of a 6pm curfew for everyone, no matter who they are, and banning click and collect shopping.

Where did you see this?

What point is a 6pm curfew when people are at work all day, then they will have to cram into the supermarket at the weekend

@pam290358

Support bubbles are on the governments’ agenda for being banned except for the ‘most vulnerable’ - how they work out who these people will be is beyond me and going on past evidence it’ll probably be a shambles. There’s also talk of a 6pm curfew for everyone, no matter who they are, and banning click and collect shopping.

Could you provide evidence of this?

Seems that the 6pm curfew thing etc is being touted by the Daily Depress, nothing official.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1383046/Lockdown-news-UK-covid-tier-rules-mask-fines-curfew-support-bubble-covid19-vaccine-latest

How would a 6pm curfew work? When i was working (in care incidentally, so one of those supposed "heroes") I didn't finish until 9.15pm. Would I not be allowed to come home?
And they can fuck off with banning support bubbles. They should crack down on the illegal ones first.

[quote tinselearedcow]Seems that the 6pm curfew thing etc is being touted by the Daily Depress, nothing official.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1383046/Lockdown-news-UK-covid-tier-rules-mask-fines-curfew-support-bubble-covid19-vaccine-latest[/quote]
You mean the Express which even Facebook label as an 'untrustworthy source'. That Express?

Honestly, the Express makes money out of sensationalism and conspiracy theories. They regularly rerun the same article on Nostradamus and how its definitely accurate in its prediction and the end of the world is nigh FFS!!!

Indeed this article is actually about France introducing this, not the UK and is polling readers about it in the UK.

It seems English Reading Comprehension isn't a strong subject for some.

That stuff in the Express is purely what the Express thinks that Boris should do, not what Boris is going to do. Its like people say on here what he should do, scaremongering crap, it looks like just a poll.

@Redrivershore

That stuff in the Express is purely what the Express thinks that Boris should do, not what Boris is going to do. Its like people say on here what he should do, scaremongering crap, it looks like just a poll.

It seems English Reading Comprehension isn't a strong subject for some

Ouch!

@RedToothBrush I don't know if that was aimed at me ot not, but I would have hoped that my referring to the Daily Express as the Daily Depress sort of indicated my view of its trustworthiness!

Sorry bit of a quote fail there - I meant to quote RedTB's post.