Tighter restrictions? What else can be "tighter"??

[R2221]

Schools closed, work places closed, nailbars, hairdressers, clothes shops, closed. My high street is dead and a couple of big shops are permanently closing down. We've been totally indoors, going out only to get grocery and exercise.

Oh, gyms are closed, no play dates, birthdays, dinners or even coffee with friends. WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE TO STOP THE SPREAD??? What would "tighter" restrictions mean? To me, next tighter level means no grocery and exercise :(

My local hospital is totally full. I don't understand why.

All of these things were reported as under consideration from unnamed ‘government sources’ in a local news report on BBC a day or two ago - I think it was in response to Kier Stamer criticising the current lockdown as being less stringent than in March, despite the new variant spreading faster. I think there’s a curfew in operation in Ireland, and they were talking about the likelihood of us following suit. The click and collect thing could be reviewed because it can be used for non essential items ordered online and home delivery is considered safer as items can be left in safe places with no contact - not sure if they meant supermarket click and collect. Support bubbles are reportedly under review as household mixing is responsible for most of the spread and they are looking to reduce contact except for the most vulnerable.

How would a 6pm curfew work? When i was working (in care incidentally, so one of those supposed "heroes") I didn't finish until 9.15pm. Would I not be allowed to come home?

Elsewhere in the world where there is a curfew policy, for example France, travel directly between home and place of work is usually allowed during the curfew period.

Didn’t we have a curfew a few months back when restaurants etc had to close at 10? Didn’t stop cases from rising

A Curfew is likely to be something under consideration that doesn't mean it is likely. At the moment it does look like the number of cases are beginning to level off so that scenario looks to be fading as a likelihood as it would only have been used if the current restrictions failed to start to see a levelling off.

Also there a fair bit of difference between a curfew at 9pm or 10pm and one at 6pm.

The reason that France has relied on curfews more, is because it does not have the legal power within law to stop people meeting on private property, such as in your house or garden - unlike the UK. So the only tool available to stop them from doing to is to control movement in public spaces - for example by curfew.

So there is a BIG practical legal reason why curfews are being used in other countries and why the UK is unlikely to follow suit.

@sofiaaaaaa

Didn’t we have a curfew a few months back when restaurants etc had to close at 10? Didn’t stop cases from rising

Thats a closure time.

A curfew where you are not allowed on the streets after a certain time unless you have a legally sanctioned reason to be out in public (eg going to work).

@notimagain

How would a 6pm curfew work? When i was working (in care incidentally, so one of those supposed "heroes") I didn't finish until 9.15pm. Would I not be allowed to come home?

Elsewhere in the world where there is a curfew policy, for example France, travel directly between home and place of work is usually allowed during the curfew period.

Well that makes sense, and is what I would actually have assumed would be the case.

But the PP said "6pm curfew for everyone, no matter who they are" which made it sound like I wouldn't have been exempt.

PinkSparklyPussyCat

Over 65's and anyone with chronic illness are only allowed outside their home between 10am - 1pm, Mon-Fri

Over 65's and anyone with chronic illness are not allowed to use public transport

Do know over 65s work? Only allowing them out during certain hours is ridiculous

If tbey are "key workers" and have written permission then yes, they can continue to work but that is the only reason they'd be allowed out.

Sorry, I clicked too soon. They're also allowed to attend medical appointments but only with proof of the appointment and, again, with written permission.

peridito

RLABAC how are the restrictions enforced
Regular police and jandarma checks and the threat of heavy fines or prosecution.

Ohhh I see😅 don’t mind me!

Would be interesting to see whether a curfew makes a difference then. I like exercising in the evenings outdoors as it’s quieter, presumably it will be much busier during the day. Also would shops etc be forced to closed before curfew? If not, I’d imagine this would be hard to enforce as people would just say they’re shopping for essential supplies when they’re really popping to see a mate or whatever

sofiaaaaaa

Our death rates have dropped considerably in the past 2-3 weeks so it seems to be working 🤞