Sir Keir Starmer calling for nursery closure!

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Sorry I’m not sure how to link this but it’s on BBC news.

[quote SendHelp30]@MarshaBradyo no we have our monthly board meetings via zoom at 7pm. My children are in their rooms or with my husband then.[/quote]
Great for you. Still not getting it.

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-nurseries-want-priority-access-to-testing-and-vaccines-12185531

Messallover As SendHelp30 has pointed out, we're in the middle of a pandemic. Nothing is the same as it was when you settled your DS, though we're trying our best.
New children are being settled now either with very different and limited settling in sessions, or without them at all. 20 years or so ago, there were few settling in sessions. Children do cope.

You wake up earlier then the children and do a couple or hours work.

Brilliant idea. I'll get up at 3am to start work two hours before my children wake up. I am sure my team would be fine with our start the day meeting then rather than at 9. In fact, they would probably prefer it.

non KW parents need to crack on at home and look after their own children

Did you see the post the other day from the mother who had to strap her two year old twins into a buggy in another room for two hours so that she could give her attention to a very sensitive meeting?

Is that the kind of cracking on you’re talking about?

It’s about having respect for others and not being lazy and selfish.

Panicking about how you will meet your child’s basic needs and ensure their safety is not ‘lazy and selfish’. This gaslighting from people like you is absolutely disgusting.

@SendHelp30

A) where is your evidence that nursery workers are are at risk? Genuinely interested.

B) my job is very important. Most jobs are. All of this will need to be paid for. If my job goes, and others like it, nursery goes. Fewer taxpayers to fund the finger-in-the air, knee jerk proposals like the one you're pushing for. There is a knock-on effect for everything and unless you can balance that with the evidence I asked for in part A, then it should be totally unacceptable.

C) you can have your wrong opinion, but to label concerned working parents as "lazy" and "selfish" is the most galling shit I've seen on this thread.

@TheKeatingFive but panicking about going home an potentially killing your family by passing on a virus caught from an asymptomatic child at nursery is absolutely fine and acceptable is it?

@CocoPark the 3 deaths, 10 positive cases in staff and 33 positive cases in children at nursery his your evidence. One workers 5 year old daughter in ITU with covid is my evidence. One 33 year old worker in ITU on a ventilator is my evidence.

But you all crack on. Send your children in to nursery so you can sit on Microsoft teams all day telling yourself your justified. Never mind the people on minimum wage risking their lives for your admin job.

Maybe you should encourage people not to use your services irl like you are here Send, tell them how selfish they are while you’re at at, and they’ll vote with their feet.

Is your nursery offering any protection to staff? What are you doing. Pay staff more to retain them?

All hot air and rubbish.

@CocoPark we are also concerned working parents.

@MarshaBradyo we have encouraged this. We have kindly asked that unless you are a KW you keep your child(ren) at home to protect our staff.
We have reserves meaning we have enough money to stay open without any fees for 8 months. After that, we have the option of claiming grants. The staff will be furloughed.

@MarshaBradyo yes they’re offered full PPE. Any staff member who asked to shield or who wanted to be off as a family member was sheilding has been placed on furlough at their request.

@Tanith. It is different settling a small child in a setting you've chosen yourself and where you hope they will be long-term even if they have no settling in sessions then leaving them with complete strangers in a place where they're only going to be for a couple of months and then completely uprooting them again. Children may cope in the short-term, but this sort of disruption has long-term consequences.

The only reason I was ever able to leave my child crying at nursery was because we'd done the research and I knew the ethos of the place (very outdoors, fantastic caring staff, low staff turnover) would suit him down to the ground. If I was a key worker, I'd be unimpressed with the suggestion that I should just hand my child over to someone I don't know and get back to the coal-face.

Great do that. Other nurseries can ask the same if they can and want to.

Why don’t you pay your staff more then since you are concerned they are on minimum wage?

@SendHelp30. Are you refunding parents who chose to keep their children at home?

@MessAllOver they are just paying a 10% retainer for their place.

@MarshaBradyo they absolutely can, yes. You asked about my particular nursery and I answered you. I can’t speak for others.

No you are berating people on here instead

And posted rubbish about how others work with zero idea.

but panicking about going home an potentially killing your family by passing on a virus caught from an asymptomatic child at nursery is absolutely fine and acceptable is it?

I think you’ll note I didn’t call you ‘lazy and selfish’ for your concerns, did I?

Why don’t you pay your staff more then since you are concerned they are on minimum wage?

Quite

Messallover It's what we had to do in the last lockdown. You say you couldn't do it. Other people did because they had to do it.

SendHelp30 I noticed you appear to have skipped completely over my post about how some employees can only work during set times during the day. What would you advise these 'lazy' and 'selfish' parents do with their children whilst they try and work from home. I'm sure they would be incredibly grateful for some advice or is their only option to give up their jobs?

@MarshaBradyo I’ve answered your questions and you don’t like it. You don’t see it from the other side. I have friends and family all managing to work from home with children yet according to mumsnet it’s impossible and each of you have jobs that are oh so important. It’s ridiculous. It is selfish to put your career and life above someone else’s. It is lazy not to try and make the effort to implement a routine which means your child can be cared for and you can work. We are not in normal times. We are in the middle of a pandemic. Other countries who have fared much better have done so because their adult population isn’t made up of entitled me, me, me people. They stuck to the rules, they kept their children home. No chance of this in the UK. It’s honestly embarrassing.

@SendHelp30 thanks for your anecdotal data. That fully balances the economic and child welfare fallout. Do tell Whitty so he can finally implement the policy.

I will absolutely continue to "crack on" with my job, and whether or not you care to acknowledge it, its funding yours - now while the kids are in and paying fees, or when you're on furlough again, or when your nursery folds and you're job-hunting.

You could have fooled me you were also concerned parents. I disagree with so much on these boards but wouldn't dream of writing anyone off for their legitimate worries. YOU did that with your "lazy and selfish" garbage.

@TheKeatingFive it’s ok to ignore the rest of my post.