How are people still catching the virus?

[Baileysforchristmas]

Numbers are still so high, are people catching it from supermarkets? Does 2 metres apart still stop you catching it? Are you still pretty safe outside if you stay at least 2 metres apart?

@Baileysforchristmas

Numbers are still so high, are people catching it from supermarkets? Does 2 metres apart still stop you catching it? Are you still pretty safe outside if you stay at least 2 metres apart?

Do you not read Mumsnet?

Forums are full of posters saying they will ignore the rules.

They are full of vitriol if any poster dares call them on their behaviour.

They say 'Oh, I'm only doing this because [insert feeble excuse for mixing with family or friends.]

The reason is very simple.

People not following the rules

People thinking they have just a cold with mild symptoms and continuing their business as normal.

There were loads of people at our local sledging spots today, all ending up in a big group at the bottom. Our local reservoir was clogged up with cars at 0930. People are all going to the same places for walks (even though there are thousands of other routes!)

We caught it from our son who caught it from a carer at his nursery. Saying this both the kids were completely asymptomatic. So unless we were told to test him, we would have only noticed when I lost my sense of smell and taste and we would have kept going out and infecting others.

My friend works in a hospital in the midlands. She says they have seen a doubling in the number of COVID positive patients in the last week and there are mass outbreaks of infection across the place (probably new strain as old measures of control just arent working). She just got her vaccination last week thank God, they are going full out to get staff done before things get any worse.

Imagine it's still spreading from Christmas at the moment. Households I know have caught it mixing at Christmas and it's still working it's way through the family. Hoping to see some reductions in figures in the next week or two.

schools have been shut bar one day from the 18th of December! So it cannot be from there!

I got it from DH. He got it from work - a care home - where it has ripped through the staff with frightening speed since Christmas, despite them all wearing masks, sanitising etc. One step up from ordinary surgical masks, but not as good as FFP3.

He thinks it’s the new variant and that a higher level of PPE is needed for that, but we can’t prove it.

Really? You can't work put how a virus is being spread? Are you under the impression that everyone is locked in their houses and never leave?

@Bilgepumper

I listened to a hospital consultant saying many people are catching it in hospital. They come in with something else and end up with Covid.

Hubby is an anaesthetist working in ICU. This is exactly what he has been saying.

"All the others are quite open that their workplaces discourage distancing or home working."

If a workplace is not observing social distancing when it is possible then I think environmental health can be called in. Workers should also get their union involved if they have one.

My local Sainsburys have no social distancing controls in place whatsoever. The government needs to address this with the supermarkets as all they are interested in is money and not safety.

People I know that have it/are isolating after contact are either in a care home, work in a care home (and their families), got contacted after Monday school to say a positive case in school so they needed to isolate, or caught from kids who brought it home for Christmas.

"Coffee shops for takeaway.

People believing outside is a magic forcefield so getting well under 2m. (Can still catch it at 2m outside)"

Catching it outside is very rare. I don't see the problem with takeaways either unless the companies are allowing too many people inside at the same time.

@GabsAlot

also my dh who has to travel into work on the train says loads of people arent wearing a mask even less than when we first had to

And why aren't train staff enforcing this?

My neighbours currently have COVID, They only came out of 10day isolation on Tuesday last week, haven seen anyone since and went to the supermarket on new years eve (Thursday) and developed symptoms on Sunday. They haven’t been to work or school and hadn’t seen anyone since coming out of isolation. They must have caught it at the supermarket

"The reason is very simple.

People not following the rules"

Except that researchers believe 90% are keeping to the rules. (seems high to me too, but they must know better than me).

Because not enough of you wear masks, keep distance or stay home unless essential.
See the other thread about wanting to go out to buy ‘picky bits’ from M&S despite just having received a supermarket delivery.
Too many only thinking of themselves and not of others.

@Lifeispassingby

My neighbours currently have COVID, They only came out of 10day isolation on Tuesday last week, haven seen anyone since and went to the supermarket on new years eve (Thursday) and developed symptoms on Sunday. They haven’t been to work or school and hadn’t seen anyone since coming out of isolation. They must have caught it at the supermarket

How can you know if they'd been anywhere else or seen someone else? You probably can't see what they're doing 100% of the time and you can't take people's word for it.

Gwen theyve been told not to as they get harrassed/threatened

chubbycheese my dsis works in a dentist same there people ringing up for heck ups which arent necessary although i blame the owners for that

And on Wednesday the wife was admitted to hospital and is now on a ventilator in ICU within a week of catching it

My DH works in the emergency services and currently approximately 50% of his team at work are off ill with covid. They have caught it from each other and from the members of the public that they have to deal with. Just as some of his team are returning to work having recovered from covid others are now coming down with it. Theirs is a role in which you can't always socially distance, it's not possible.

People are not staying at home. They are manipulating the guidelines to suit themselves. You only have to drive though a town centre to find the world and his wife walking round shut shops and standing chatting outside coffee shops. Dog walkers meeting. Families in parks. Whole families wandering round those shops that are open "because they are open so I can". Meeting that one person (but a different person) every day. Numerous bubbles that change to suit. It's all bollocks.

@lovemirage

People thinking they have just a cold with mild symptoms and continuing their business as normal.

The strict criteria for tests must be partly to blame for this. There was a thread where posters were telling someone with a sore throat she couldn't get tested because it's not one of the symptoms on the list. It's a well known symptom of Covid though.

@Gwenhwyfar 🙄 we know them well and they have no reason to lie. They are stickler for the rules so I have no reason not to believe them