Exercise is now once a day by law?

[Lemons1571]

I’m confused. I thought Boris said it was unlimited. It definitely says once a day in the new lockdown guidance:

You can continue to exercise alone, with one other person or with your household or support bubble. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.You should maintain social distancing. See exercising and meeting other people.

@PimlicoJo

And now finally it really feels like Groundhog Day. I cannot believe this debate has come up again.

The wording is clear. It's once a day. If you feel that your particular circumstances due to location etc mean you are doing something else then use your judgement and do what works for you. Quietly. No need to come onto social media and tell everyone why you're different. Just use your common sense.

Have we got onto cheese in coffee yet?! Checking supermarket trollies to make sure there's not a non-essential Mars Bar in among the nutritionally just meeting requirements gruel?

For those not liking the idea of the system used in France, maybe that is the system we will end up having if we keep having people trying to find ways round the guidance and thinking of themselves rather than the common good

I do 90% of my shopping in foot, and have to say I don't intend to count that as exercise. Also, I walk to work. So that's already twice a day, but I'd rather do a proper walk up the local hill so will. Luckily most people are very careful in our large village and give eachother distance and there are lots outside wearing masks

*Have we dropped into a time loop?

Can we just skip all the pearl clutching and literal shaking because runners are killing everyone by breathing through their mouths?*

Apparently so !!

Having managed to get my mental health on track finally I WILL be leaving my house for as long and as often as I see fit . Long walks have long been a hobby (if you can call them then ) and need them note so now then ever . Albeit I won’t be driving to far away scenic spots for them just now .

I don’t live rurally as such but it’s not a densely populated area so quite capable of walking and barely passing anyone and can be fairly rural within a 10 min walk . Even in the height of summer managed to not run into lots of people and when I did pass other people everyone myself included moved well to the side and respected social distancing

So even if they make it law they can fuck off basically !

@ineedaholidaynow

For those not liking the idea of the system used in France, maybe that is the system we will end up having if we keep having people trying to find ways round the guidance and thinking of themselves rather than the common good

What ways around the guidance are you talking about?

It’s for the common good to be fitter and slimmer so if we catch covid we’re less likely to get it badly.

People are now trying to find ways of making local not really local at all etc

Bahhhh autocorrect!!

And before I get jumped on I DONT do plenty of things that are / have been “allowed” because common sense tells me they are risky and I am genuinely trying to think of others eg I didn’t go on hol / busy pubs etc just because we could ( I don’t judge those that do btw ) but I see outdoor excersize over the limits of what’s ‘allowed’ as incredibly low risk

People are now trying to find ways of making local not really local at all etc

^^More March bingo

Use common sense, avoid places with lots of people and stay in local area. Not hard. Whether one person defines it as round the block and another as within their county what is it to you?

When I read this post, I thought for one awful moment, that we HAD to exercise for an hour a day!

Well to be fair it would improve the health of the nation if everyone did more than lockdowns.

@Teateaandmoretea

People are now trying to find ways of making local not really local at all etc

^^More March bingo

Use common sense, avoid places with lots of people and stay in local area. Not hard. Whether one person defines it as round the block and another as within their county what is it to you?

Yeah - I'm fucked if I'm getting worried about if I have to trudge around the swamp passing as a playing field out the back where there's a history of poisoned food being left out for dogs - or getting in the car and driving 10 minutes to the local woodland where I'm not dodging used drugs bags, nox cannisters and an impressively randomly abandoned sofa (there is no vehicle access for a good 1/4 mile onto it - I'm seriously impressed at the level of effort it took to dump that one).

I don't think we're back to mis information at all.
We're back to mis interpretation to find loop holes, in some cases deliberately.

The rules are clear, stay in unless for work, medical emergency, brief food shop and exercise once per day in your area.

Not hard is it.
It amazes me how prevalent academic degrees are in society yet common sense has disappeared.

@annevonkenleve erm are you accusing me of lying? I have actually physically witnessed a police van doing checks, asked and had it confirmed and the police waiting for people outside a shop (a garage on the lake district border so checking the area vehicles were registered to to see how far they had travelled) to verify with whoever comes out their reasons for travel.

The supermarket example is from someone I know (family, so not local gossip before my family member is also an accused liar) who was at the shop at the same time fines were issued. Fines were issued to people who had travelled from over an hour away and who, at the time, were in an area which had rapidly increasing rates and one of the first areas to go into a higher tier.

So yes, it does happen. I'm not trying to scare monger or spread false information. There are other examples of similar that have happened close to where I live.

@Hrpuffnstuff1

I don't think we're back to mis information at all. We're back to mis interpretation to find loop holes, in some cases deliberately.

The rules are clear, stay in unless for work, medical emergency, brief food shop and exercise once per day in your area.

Not hard is it.
It amazes me how prevalent academic degrees are in society yet common sense has disappeared.

Common sense you say?

Going out for fifteen walks a day where I live will not increase the risk of anything apart from me being fitter and healthier. My academic degrees have told me so.

This a version of the Melbourne lockdown where we were confined to 5Ks of our homes and could exercise for one hour a day. It was a pain, but do-able. A third of my radius was in the sea! and I split my exercise into two half hours to walk the dog. We also had 8-5 curfew.

Much of the other detail is similar. This business of the garden centres staying open is bloody stupid, it's designed for dawdling. They are not essential.

Are there restrictions on numbers in shops? There should be.

It's detailed enough to give some guidance and woolly enough to be unenforceable. A Boris fuck-up and England will pay for this.

I am by no means suggesting a curfew but Jesus, it's vague and, as evidenced on this and other threads, people will look for ways to flout the guidance to suit themselves.

Same acobReesMogadishu

Didn’t Boris say he was going to get some of this stuff made law, so will be interesting to see what the actual legislation is.

I’ve decided my daily dog walk isn’t exercise....it’s animal welfare reasons. My daily bike ride is my exercise.

Except I like a walk with the dog who stops and sniffs every few seconds and a faster walk without him.

So what happens if everyone else thinks where you live @PurpleDaisies is local to them even if it is hundreds of miles away but they prefer that location?

That is what happened near us, people very much not local flocked to our area because it was nicer than where they lived and the National Park was locked down.

@ineedaholidaynow

So what happens if everyone else thinks where you live *@PurpleDaisies* is local to them even if it is hundreds of miles away but they prefer that location?

That is what happened near us, people very much not local flocked to our area because it was nicer than where they lived and the National Park was locked down.

I haven’t said anything about ignoring the stay local guidance.

So you only ignore the bits that suit you @PurpleDaisies

@ineedaholidaynow

So you only ignore the bits that suit you *@PurpleDaisies*

The bits that make no difference to covid transmission, yes.

Can you tell me how me going out for a second walk is a problem? Yesterday in an hour and a half I saw one other person and they were on a horse.

It’s just guidance. I kind of get where they’re coming from if you live in central London and go to the park every time you go out along with everyone else, but if you live rurally it’s just ridiculous. Going for a morning run and an afternoon stroll where I’ll see nobody makes no odds.

I think it’s unlikely that the legislation will stipulate only leaving house once, but it hasn’t yet been published. All that has been published so far is the guidance.
The legislation will be published later today for tomorrow’s vote.
It wasn’t in the legislation in March.

I’ve decided my daily dog walk isn’t exercise....it’s animal welfare reasons.

TBF I think this is actually true. Animal exercise is an allowed exception, as is exercise. In the same way as you could walk to your local shop for food and then exercise later on that day. Or go to the Dr and then go food shopping later. Just stay safe while doing it all :)

If you had multiple animals to exercise you would have to go out as many times as necessary to ensure they all got adequate exercise for their mental and physical health.

Isn’t it going to become law on Wednesday after Parliament is recalled

There was no requirement for this law to go before parliament, no previous coronavirus restrictions have, I think it very unlikely that this will either.

Equally there is no support for single exercise, it almost certainly does more harm than good for health outcomes.

The PM stated the measures will be made into law by early hours of Wednesday and MPs are being recalled to parliament later that day.