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Announcements today?

231 replies

Tillsforthrills · 04/01/2021 10:34

Is BoJo expected to make an official announcement today or is it just speculation?

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RedToothBrush · 04/01/2021 12:10

@Callipygion

What’s the betting he starts with the words “It is with a heavy heart ... “ or some similar trite shit.
Alas.
Butterflytown · 04/01/2021 12:11

@ihatemyselffordoingthis they already brought back shielding in tier 4- I got a text on the 21st, an email on the 22nd and a letter on Saturday. Currently until 18th jan but it’ll be extended I’m sure.

Callipygion · 04/01/2021 12:14

[quote LaMarschallin]No idea about an announcement, but, if there is one, I won't be able to get the following article out of my head while listening to it:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/01/boris-johnson-victim-emotions[/quote]
Just seen your post and read the link -this, exactly!

Butterflytown · 04/01/2021 12:17

@JimmyTheBrave yes I got told to shield again (tier 4) on 21st December, currently until 18 Jan. I’m in a London borough with over 1100 cases, primary schools shut but pre school open. DC (3) is home with me whilst I try to work as we didn’t feel it was safe for her to go in. Non key worker husband is in work as cannot wfh so still some risk but he’s driving in at least rather than public transport.

Viviennemary · 04/01/2021 12:19

I agree. Most people are past listening. In any case is there much difference between tier 4 and lockdown.

Saz12 · 04/01/2021 12:19

It is of course true that the average better- off in society are more likely to be able to WFH, are less likely to have to contact lots of other people, and are therefore less likely to get Covid. Obviously plenty of well-paid doctors etc.

But what can actually be done to stop that? We desperately need Carers, and supermarket workers, and food industry, and a myriad of other people. It’s crappy but what immediate option is there?

I hate the idea of school closures as it disproportionately impacts those children who are already having to work harder against poorer outcomes : those ones who lack space, whose parents can’t WFH, the ones without enough IT equipment, those whose parents can’t buy extra workbooks or craft stuff or whatever. But without the closures we’re going to be totally fucked. There’s no good option.

JinglingHellsBells · 04/01/2021 12:21

@ListeningQuietly

Lockdown is untrue because millions of low paid people are out at work
  • producing food
  • delivering and picking other people's online shopping
  • cooking and delivering meals
  • keeping the lights on
  • care workers going house to house

only the rich have the luxury of staying at home during lockdowns

Rubbish.

There are other people who work who are not on your list.

genie111 · 04/01/2021 12:22

He's having a referendum on it

RedToothBrush · 04/01/2021 12:24

Jeremy Hunt @Jeremy_Hunt
Time to act: thread on why we need to close schools, borders, and ban all household mixing RIGHT AWAY.

To those arguing winter is always like this in the NHS: you are wrong. I faced four serious winter crises as Health Sec and the situation now is off-the-scale worse than any of those.

It’s true that we often had to cancel elective care in Jan to protect emergency care but that too is under severe pressure with record trolley waits for the very sickest patients

Health Service Journal @HSJnews
Exclusive: Leaks reveal record waits for emergency care due to covid pressures
www.hsj.co.uk/emergency-care/exclusive-leaks-reveal-record-waits-for-emergency-care-due-to-covid-pressures/7029246.article?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=newsfeed

Jeremy Hunt @Jeremy_Hunt
Even more worryingly fewer heart attack patients appear to be presenting in ICUs, perhaps because they are not dialling 999 when they need to

Full credit to NHS for keeping cancer services open but in Wave 1 there was still a 2/3 drop in cancer appts: people didn’t come forward to GPs or want to go to hospitals, with many potentially avoidable cancer deaths. We hoped to avoid that this time but now looking unlikely.

Excellent analysis by @NeilDotObrien shows the reason for all this pressure: 1/3 more hospital beds now taken up nationally by covid patients than in Wave 1 (50% in SE). Having a new strain in the middle of winter is clearly having a massive impact
twitter.com/NeilDotObrien/status/1345855146660683776
(This guy is a tory MP btw)

No 1 lesson is countries that act early & decisively save lives & get their economies back to normal faster. Wuhan is now free of any restrictions - but Uni of Southampton show if they’d locked down 1 week earlier they would’ve reduced infections by 2/3

We therefore cannot afford to wait: all schools should be closed, international travel stopped, household mixing limited and the tier system reviewed so that the highest tier really does bring down infection levels (as with the first lockdown).

Also with vacancy levels at 2-3 times normal because of self-isolation & covid, NHS staff who are risking their lives for us MUST be put at the front of the queue for vaccines. This will stop our hospitals falling over and help keep their patients safe. It is also our moral duty.

The good news is that unlike before these restrictions will be time limited to the 12 weeks or so it will take to get the vaccine out to those most vulnerable to covid - so there is light at the end of the tunnel.

I know all these things will be under consideration with decisions potentially imminent. My point is in the face of exponential growth even waiting an extra day causes many avoidable deaths so these plans must now be urgently accelerated.

There's a sick irony in this coming from Hunt who ground down the NHS... but if he's saying it, theres a) merit to it b) growing pressure even within the Tory ranks for Johnson to get off his arse and do something. And Quick.

genie111 · 04/01/2021 12:26

For crying out loud, STOP DITHERING. Full lockdown, cancel exams, catch up with learning in the lead up to, and during, the normal exam period

Beebityboo · 04/01/2021 12:27

I...can't believe I agree with Jeremy Hunt. This is truly the apocalypse.

Ellie56 · 04/01/2021 12:27

There will be an announcement that there will be an announcement about further restrictions later in the week.

Alas.

hettyhooverdoover · 04/01/2021 12:28

@LacyEdge

Resignation would be nice.
Who do you think could do any better?
bluebeck · 04/01/2021 12:28

@BrokenCircle

It’s so pointless! With a lot of schools open today and therefore households mixing by the hundreds, cases and deaths with rise in due course. BJ has blood on his hands.
Totally agree with this.

A PP suggested people are breaking restrictions because they are "bored" Seriously? How selfish do you have to be to justify that?

It is clealy untrue that only the rich can stay home during lockdown. I know plenty of people who are WFH who are on less than £20k

I do agree that this has all gone on far too long but that is because of our inept government and BJ thinking being PM is a popularity contest. So we are now left in a situation where a really strict lockdown like the one we had in Spring, plus masks, is inevitable.

The unions are fighting for all parents who cannot work due to school closures to be offered furlough and this needs to be agreed asap.

MistleTOEboughski · 04/01/2021 12:29

On the Sun live blog it reports Boris said his biggest regret from lockdown 1 was closing schools and there are "powerful" reasons to keep them open and teachers are no more at risk than anyone else.

Cheeseboardandmincepies · 04/01/2021 12:29

He’s probably going to prance around for a few more days hinting, and then do a complete u-turn on the weekend pushing us all into lockdown until March/April, maybe consider the schools going back after Easter, then decide not to and open the pubs and shops first then declare another lockdown. Schools to be back in September.
Pure speculation but given his past actions I wouldn’t put it past him, he hasn’t got a clue.

LacyEdge · 04/01/2021 12:30

At this point, Fearne bloody Cotton would be a better bet as PM.

God help me, but I’m starting to think Jeremy “NHS Crusher” Hunt might be the only possible replacement for Johnson. Which is, I’m sure, what he’s angling for with all these sensible tweets. He’s the only senior Tory taking it seriously and seeing that a healthy economy and good public health are intertwined, not opposites.

Heartlantern2 · 04/01/2021 12:30

So many rules changing too often-I don’t know my elbow from my a* anymore!

That’s the main reason people have stopped listening- that and the financial impact directly on themselves and their families.

Allispretty · 04/01/2021 12:32

My bet is Wednesday or Thursday with restrictions coming in 24 hours later. They are going to leave it whilst they "review impact of tier 4" and until later in the week so schools close ready for the weekend so parents scramble to make arrangements sat/sun.

Basically a repeat of March 18th...they are hell bent on saying how efficient they are in dealing with this and ready to implement restrictions in 24 hours so they are going to do just that to try and prove they are correct.

I'm so angry with handcock this morning implying it's people that have got us into this mess...again all this does is fuels the covid police and puts people against each other rather than us all pulling together.

wantmorenow · 04/01/2021 12:33

My vote goes to having jacinda ardern on a secondment for a year instead of BoJo or the rest of the shower.

She's awesome.

ajandjjmum · 04/01/2021 12:34

@Callipygion

What’s the betting he starts with the words “It is with a heavy heart ... “ or some similar trite shit.
Would you prefer he said 'I'm delighted to announce.....'?
Dugee · 04/01/2021 12:34

can't believe I agree with Jeremy Hunt. This is truly the apocalypse.

I've agreed with Piers Morgan a few times over this. The world truly is going mad.

Beebityboo · 04/01/2021 12:34

@MistleTOEboughski

On the Sun live blog it reports Boris said his biggest regret from lockdown 1 was closing schools and there are "powerful" reasons to keep them open and teachers are no more at risk than anyone else.
He can't really be considering keeping them open can he? Ffs. I really, really don't want to have to deregister Sad.
Blubellsarebells · 04/01/2021 12:35

Im at home on 60% of my nomal wage.
Furlough.
Im not rich.
I cant go back to work until this is under control.
Which needs to be sooner rather than later.
Furlough ends in April.
We need proper lockdown now, 24/7 vaccine roll out, numbers down so track and trace has some hope.
Back to normal in april.
If they keep dithering this could drag on until summer again and millions of furloughed workers will be redundant.

Australia77 · 04/01/2021 12:35

@Redbrickwall

I agree, this is absolute misery. I am already in Tier 4 and we really have been in lockdown since beginning of November when we had the last National Lockdown. Kids will be remote learning until at least February half-term and I am so sick of doing the same shit day in and day out. My Christmas "leave" from work was fucking miserable sitting around the house, apart from one walk a day in the miserable cold. This is an absolute shit existence and I am not sure how I am going to keep going to be honest. They need to give us a definite date for restrictions to be eased regardless of what the case numbers are. I can't keep going like this.