Tier 4, are you sending your kids back Monday?

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I’m extremely nervous about sending my child back now, moved into tier 4, area we are in has increased a lot, on border of another area which has leaped in cases the last week, I am higher risk and also look after a relative who is ECV, anyone not sending their child/children back?

Yes probably, they want to and our area is on the lower side for Tier 4. But I don’t feel good about it.

Yep... the school is closed as we're in a Tier 4 London borough but DP is a keyworker so the kids will be going in (I hope! Last time the school only required one parent to be a KW)

2 are secondary age, but not y11, so cannot return for a couple of weeks. They will as soon as this is possible.

My youngest two are y4 and y2 and will be going back. My y4 has an EHCP and although I kept him off for a few weeks in the first lockdown I won’t be doing so again. He’ll be in no matter what - his mental health desperately needs it. My y2 has no additional need(s), but she will also be in unless it’s completely impossible. She was affected terribly by the lack of normality and social interaction last time, and that’s without being a particularly needy child!

@MegtheShark Are you seriously giving people advice on how to fake authentic looking coronavirus test results? Don't you think that's irresponsible and well, a bit fucking stupid?

To answer the original question, I am undecided at present and will see what develops in our area over the next week and perhaps speak to my consultant (I'm CEV). If I decide not to send them in though I certainly won't be scrabbling around booking test slots and not turning up, or making my own fake text "results" or offering to help others fake results though. Because I'm a fucking adult.

I'm sending mine back but will keep reassessing. We're in a tier 4 area in the north. The main reason I'm sending them back is that our local cases are lower than a few weeks ago. However, they've increased significantly in the last week and I'm sure this will continue. I'm concerned that all schools will end up closing in a chaotic way with barely any notice. I certainly wouldn't judge any parents that have made a different decision.

No homeschooling because Boris is useless, he wants kids in primary to go back to enable parents to go to work.

Never pay the fine, tell them to take you to court, they cannot keep give you 100% assurance that your child will be protected at school, fight them all the way.

Yes I am. We are not vulnerable, and both dh and I have had it. And the schools are open.

If the government said "schools should open according to demand" then we would rethink. But they haven't. So we aren't.

Primaries here are closed, the rates are over 1000 per 100,000 and the NHS trust is about to fall over.

Tbh, also, my youngest missed 6 weeks of school last term due to isolation periods so I've no doubt my kids will be off under the schools direction soon enough.

Hell yes my kids are going back on Monday. Miraculously I am in one of the London boroughs in which primary schools are not closing. Cases are sky high but my kids will be going back. Hopefully this will give me a couple of weeks to sort out stuff at work after the Xmas break and persuade my employer to furlough me when the school closes, which I am pretty sure will happen after the next review in two weeks time. There is no way I can work and juggle homeschool again like in the first lockdown. I was a total mess and very close to burn out, ds had developed an eating disorder and dd become overweight. No way in hell will I go through something like this again. Health implications for my family were enormous. Let's not even mention academic progress. Fingers crossed I can sort it all out in time.

I have no option. I work in a school, I have to go back so my DS will have to go back to preschool.

@user1485461206 your school can not ask for proof, it's confidential.

[quote BollocksToTwentyTwenty]@MegtheShark Are you seriously giving people advice on how to fake authentic looking coronavirus test results? Don't you think that's irresponsible and well, a bit fucking stupid?

To answer the original question, I am undecided at present and will see what develops in our area over the next week and perhaps speak to my consultant (I'm CEV). If I decide not to send them in though I certainly won't be scrabbling around booking test slots and not turning up, or making my own fake text "results" or offering to help others fake results though. Because I'm a fucking adult. [/quote]
Yes, yes I am.

And no, I don’t think it is stupid. Not after seeing how petty and vindictive our school has been to frightened ECV parents, and parents with ECV children...seemingly because of attendance stats. Though thankfully even they have not been asking for ‘evidence’.

It should be completely unnecessary, but if it helps a panicking parent, who is worried they will be fined or have evidence demanded of them, then I am happy to help.

Yes

[quote GalaxyCookieCrumble]@user1485461206 your school can not ask for proof, it's confidential. [/quote]
Well they did, we had to isolate waiting test results and they made me email pictures to prove it and then when negative result was received they said if I didn’t send child couldn’t return.

No! I am not.

I'll keep her off for as long as I can....

It's not safe.

We will be sending DD back next week using DH’s keyworker status (we are in one of the delayed return London boroughs) if we are able. It’s a nursery attached to a school which I understand can be opened or not at the school’s discretion.

@PandemicPavolova

No! I am not.

I'll keep her off for as long as I can....

It's not safe.

Will you pay the fine if they issue one or will you fight it?

Yes, ours have been off for a while anyway. They are too young to home school and I can’t manage both of us working too. We have been following the rules, have been working from home and get everything delivered to home. So our family hopefully won’t be bringing it into school.

Hi. EWO here. I think parents should be able to keep their children home at the moment. We haven't fined anyone and don't intend to. But I would urge you all to be honest with the schools. No one can force you to send your children in and if you are fined you have the option not to pay and to defend yourself in court where I think the case would most likely be thrown out currently. If I was fined I would happily not pay and state my case in court.

There is absolutely not a cat in hells chance of anyone going to prison.

Make a balanced decision based on your own circumstances but please be honest with the schools.

There will be no fines so don't worry about that. Keep them off if you can. I wish we could but I have to go in. We're south east been in tier 4 since 26th and hospital here is overwhelmed.....

Also for what it's worth many schools are authorising absences where there is someone shielding in the family home, or where parents are very concerned about the virus. If you are open and honest you give them an opportunity to agree your child's absence, and also we know where they are and why they are off and usually wouldn't need to follow up with any home visits. All schools are slightly different but my best advice is if you don't want to send your child to school, tell the school so don't make up things that aren't true. It's also worth remembering whatever the school says, they can only decide whether to authorise an absence or not. It's the local authority that make a decision about sanctions such as fines.

I don't have children in school, and in my area they are closed anyway.
I have no clue what I would do if I had school age children and they were open, though.