Schools plan in January

[Ohbabybab]

amp.theguardian.com/education/2020/dec/30/return-to-english-secondary-schools-and-universities-to-be-delayed?__twitter_impression=true

From this it seems the plan is to close schools in tier 4 areas but what about pupils and staff who live in other tiers and commute in?

Sigh I work in a school nursery class it looks like we are staying open - which I’m happy about because going to work keeps me sane.
However my year 7 ds will have to stay at home by himself for a week or two by the sounds of it. He will manage but he gets lonely by himself.

I'm in a 'mass testing' for asymptomatic people area btw, but my local centre has not reopened this week as planned... due to lack of test kits.

@Littlefluffyclouds13
I feel like nobody gives two hoots about us
I guess you are a School teacher and not in the private early years sector. We never even get a mention, despite working at far closer proximity to the children in our care than teachers Generally do. Whilst I don’t want it to be a race to the bottom, it is very rare for us to be given a mention or For anyone to concern themselves with our safety. It is also very rare for the early years workforce to moan about the conditions they work in, even though they are dealing with bodily fluids and get sneezed, licked and coughed on, on a regular basis.

Definitely said list of schools to close on dot gov ,

But for heavens sake it must be a known list ,surely not working on it as Gavin announces it in the Commons ? Closures must be based on certain factors . Why not say what they are ? Why not put list up immediarely ??

[quote SatsumasOrClementines]**@Strawberrypancakes* @Lauren1983*

Childcare is such a shitty reason to keep primary schools and nurseries open.

Keep them open for key worker children and vulnerable children yes, but don’t throw teachers and school staff unwillingly into the front line as cannon fodder just for the reason of childcare.[/quote]
Providing ‘just’ childcare is exactly what nurseries do, so that parents are able to work and keep the economy going... There has been just one case at our nursery this year.

Unfortunately some classrooms have windows that don't open

Aargh, I want to see the list. Wonder how specific and local the decisions will be. My area is bad (not the worst but pretty bad) but my village is almost unaffected. I want to go back to school so much and think we easily could but suspect surrounding areas will keep us closed.

@Bathroom12345

Most of those "doom mongers" are disabled and critically vulnerable people who are scared for their own lives or the lives of people they love. It really pisses me off when people say Covid isn't a big deal because its "only" killing disabled and elderly people like their lives don't matter. I mean most disabled people already know that's how they're viewed but this is really rubbing it in.

@Ohbabybab

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We've edited the title now, as requested.

@RaffertyBear the whole of year 10 in their school is taking them early

I don't want to have to deregister them because they love their schools and it will break their hearts. What a mess

It's a very stressful time. Everyone feels like they've been forgotten about and thrown under a bus because we've had so little contact with our normal range of people and started navel gazing too much. The reality is nobody has been forgotten. It's just shit for everyone and hard for us to realise that we're not the only people who are finding this. I wouldn't want to be in any of our positions right now.

@manicinsomniac

It's a very stressful time. Everyone feels like they've been forgotten about and thrown under a bus because we've had so little contact with our normal range of people and started navel gazing too much. The reality is nobody has been forgotten. It's just shit for everyone and hard for us to realise that we're not the only people who are finding this. I wouldn't want to be in any of our positions right now.

Good point

I have to disagree that most of the doom mongers are disabled. What an odd thing to say.

Back in the day when life was normal I remember being at home upstairs on a conference call with toddler downstairs..the call went on longer than I thought and I was hosting it to customers.

My toddler wrecked the house. Bloody lucky he didnt hurt himself as he pulled the ironing board over too. I couldn't work.like that with a toddler for more than the odd emergency as my days like that was borderline neglect to keep my job.

I dont envy this situation. I also honestly struggle with thec2019 mantra that a days missed education should be fined with this shit show.

My middle two have EHCPs so they have to go back anyway.

This is where safeguarding becomes a bit of a joke.

[quote Maryann1975]@Littlefluffyclouds13
I feel like nobody gives two hoots about us
I guess you are a School teacher and not in the private early years sector. We never even get a mention, despite working at far closer proximity to the children in our care than teachers Generally do. Whilst I don’t want it to be a race to the bottom, it is very rare for us to be given a mention or For anyone to concern themselves with our safety. It is also very rare for the early years workforce to moan about the conditions they work in, even though they are dealing with bodily fluids and get sneezed, licked and coughed on, on a regular basis.[/quote]
I'm an early years teacher, I work in a nursery class within a large state primary school.
So yes, daily dealings with bodily fluids etc and 30 children literally in my face all day!
I feel your pain in the private sector, particularly as you are with even younger children than me.

Have they yet said what the areas are that are closing primary’s too? I assume it’s somewhere in London and/or south east

[quote Maryann1975]@Littlefluffyclouds13
I feel like nobody gives two hoots about us
I guess you are a School teacher and not in the private early years sector. We never even get a mention, despite working at far closer proximity to the children in our care than teachers Generally do. Whilst I don’t want it to be a race to the bottom, it is very rare for us to be given a mention or For anyone to concern themselves with our safety. It is also very rare for the early years workforce to moan about the conditions they work in, even though they are dealing with bodily fluids and get sneezed, licked and coughed on, on a regular basis.[/quote]
Yes that's true Maryann1075

I think the focus for some months has been the rapidly increasing rates in secondary schools. We're now seeing that in primary schools and presumably EYFS will be affected.

The number of children in a setting make a difference to risk as well. My dc's nursery was quite 'big' and it had 60 kids divided across 3 rooms.

Their secondary schools - two separate schools - have 20 times that in each.

It must be very stressful for all staff working directly with children at the moment, and it's very depressing to see staff welfare at the bottom of the pile.

How can he say schools are safe?

Boris just said the list is published

Where is the list?

@Beebityboo

I don't want to have to deregister them because they love their schools and it will break their hearts. What a mess

Unless your school has a waiting list or it's over subscribed you can deregister and then enroll them back when you feel more safe.

I couldn't do it here as it's a vastly oversubscribed area.

As someone has was threatened with fines for four years due to a child to anxious to go in 50% of the time, I was never fined.

If you dont want to deregister then you could gain a few weeks by saying you need to look into that option to avoid fines. But obs be careful you dont loose the place. I'm not a expert but know people who de reg

I hope all parents who are screaming that schools should close will keep their children away from play dates, pointless supermarket shopping because the kids are bored and visits to relatives and friends to get them out of the house.

Haven't seen the list yet. I keep checking the DfE page

twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1344329291459407873?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

list here