Whats happening in China now?

Zara50 · 2020-12-29T22:05:04+00:00

I have googled but I dont seem to get any answers. All I seem to be seeing is that China have got rid of it without a vaccine, followed by talk of propaganda blah etc. But can anyone tell me what has actually happened out there for them to have it under control? Are they still in some form of lockdown?

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 29/12/2020 22:20

some form of lockdown
Yeah, some form. It’s from November, but here’s what happens when just two people test positive in a city. All but truly essential provision suppliers shut down, including schools, mass testing, the two cases movements tracked and locations they visited shit down and thoroughly disinfected, they place they lived sealed off. That’s what’s happening.
www.globaltimes.cn/content/1207609.shtml

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 29/12/2020 22:21

Shut down even,

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Zara50 · 29/12/2020 22:22

Wowzers. Surely they can't live like that forever?

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Judashascomeintosomemoney · 29/12/2020 22:26

What, three days of full lockdown while the whole city is tested? I’d rather that than the seemingly endless tier 4 (probably about to be tier 5 tomorrow) that I’m currently living in.

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Zara50 · 29/12/2020 22:29

How does an entire city get tested in 3 days?

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MrsPernicious · 29/12/2020 22:32

@Zara50

How does an entire city get tested in 3 days?

With great effort and efficiency.

If we were in Wuhan right now, we could go night clubbing.
Assuming we had completed quarantine.

JacobReesMogadishu · 29/12/2020 22:33

Everyone has a designated centre where they know they have to go to. They stand and queue for hours and hours outside until they get tested. Everyone complies.

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Zara50 · 29/12/2020 22:37

Gosh, compliance would never be like that over here would it. Thanks for answering my question

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 29/12/2020 22:38

If you don’t have lots of people who actually have covid needing tests you’ve got lots more capacity for doing that sort of mass testing too. I’d guess they are using some form of pooled testing.

ragged · 29/12/2020 22:39

They keep testing entire cities & have their own vaccine they rolled out before it could be proven safe (or effective).

rhowton · 29/12/2020 22:42

It's a good thing compliance isn't like that over here...

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 29/12/2020 22:53

@Zara50

Gosh, compliance would never be like that over here would it. Thanks for answering my question

No. And whilst no sane person would be cheerleading for the government of the PRC, it isn’t, as many in the UK would like to believe, because it is totalitarian and the people are scared, it’s more that they actually trust their government to get it right . So they go along with it (for the most part) because they know it’s effective, even if they don’t exactly like it. Whereas here, people will complain about wearing a mask for ten minutes in Sainsbury’s because it’s against their ‘human rights’. And that’s fine, it’s a free country, sort of, but they also tend to be the same people who then ask, why can’t we be more like South Korea, Singapore, Vietnam, China etc - they’re already back to normal? It’s laughable. It reminds me of that film line ‘You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!’

Wakeupin2022 · 29/12/2020 23:21

I'm sure somewhere in China got locked down today.

Foxglovii · 29/12/2020 23:33

Don't they also lock people into their buildings in certain cases. I'm imagining not all, but there were certainly images showing doors being boarded up whilst people wee in the building.

CrystalPuff · 29/12/2020 23:53

China takes things extremely seriously at an early stage and people are very compliant. As an example, there was a mini outbreak of covid in Beijing in summer (something like 20 cases) and they sealed off the entire city. They blocked all the main roads and sent cars leaving town back inside. People didn't complain or riot, they expected this to happen so they simply put up with it. Not sure this even made the news in western countries but I know since my grandparents left for holiday the day before so they were very grateful to have made it out. That outbreak fizzled out quickly so things went back to normal soon after.

Compare this to the mass exodus shitshow that was London last week, and the number of cases that had to happen before it even reached that point. Once things get that bad, it becomes a million times harder to keep the situation under control. Even China would have a difficult time controlling the population if things were as bad there as they are in Europe/UK right now.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 29/12/2020 23:56

What was itbthe WHO said, you need to get in early and control the virus or it’ll control you?

SideboardOfDoom · 29/12/2020 23:57

I think the key issue has been highlighted above - trust in the government (whether democratically elected or otherwise) to do the right thing.

Rightly or wrongly, people in the UK don’t have that trust and the government’s actions have done nothing to foster any confidence in them. Quite the opposite.

onedayinthefuture · 29/12/2020 23:58

Animals are probably still crammed together in cages eating each other's faeces and the next virus is probably brewing.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 29/12/2020 23:59

@Foxglovii

Don't they also lock people into their buildings in certain cases. I'm imagining not all, but there were certainly images showing doors being boarded up whilst people wee in the building.

No idea if that was really the case but they definitely did was issue a sort of alarm type thing to be set on people’s homes. If they were supposed to be quarantined and they do much as even opened their front door, let alone left the house, local officials were alerted and would immediately pay a visit to ask wtf was going on. Not threatening but definitely watching. Closely.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 30/12/2020 00:01

This government thrives on dividing the community, which really hasn’t helped things at all.

You can’t create the sense of community needed if you are simultaneously sowing divisions however much you are trusted.

0gfhty · 30/12/2020 00:19

@CrystalPuff

China takes things extremely seriously at an early stage and people are very compliant. As an example, there was a mini outbreak of covid in Beijing in summer (something like 20 cases) and they sealed off the entire city. They blocked all the main roads and sent cars leaving town back inside. People didn't complain or riot, they expected this to happen so they simply put up with it. Not sure this even made the news in western countries but I know since my grandparents left for holiday the day before so they were very grateful to have made it out. That outbreak fizzled out quickly so things went back to normal soon after.

Compare this to the mass exodus shitshow that was London last week, and the number of cases that had to happen before it even reached that point. Once things get that bad, it becomes a million times harder to keep the situation under control. Even China would have a difficult time controlling the population if things were as bad there as they are in Europe/UK right now.

They had a mass exodus of people from Wuhan too just before their first lockdown

Houseofflu · 30/12/2020 00:25

There were a few mini outbreaks, mostly related to cold chain workers. Some cities were under lockdown for a short period. But life are back to normal in general.

HibernatingTill2030 · 30/12/2020 00:30

Their government did- and is doing- the sort of lockdown that people here would never accept. Locking people into houses, roadblocks, the full shebang. Effective but unethical.

JacobReesMogadishu · 30/12/2020 07:03

My friend who is Chinese (brought up in China) agrees people comply because they generally want to, very few exceptions. She says they are brought up from a very young age to believe in doing everything they can to help the country/state. She says loyalty to China comes way above personal wants. And this is drummed into them as kids.

ShanghaiDiva · 30/12/2020 09:02

I lived in China for 12. Years and came back to the uk this year. This is what life is like in the city i lived in (population 7 million)
Offices were closed for about 4 weeks from 23rd january, no closure since
Restaurants were closed for a similar time, although takeaways were permitted and then not permitted and then back to fully open after 6/7 weeks
Schools shut and there was a phased return with oldest first and all back by June. Schools have all been open since new school year as normal, but no parents on campus until November
The beginning of the lockdown was very strict with non residents not able to enter housing compounds, restricted movement between cities and provinces and it was mandatory to get tested if you had symptoms (the opposite of the uk govt approach in March).
The border was shut on 27th March, but has since reopened (with some restrictions, no international tourists for example). To enter China a 14 day quarantine in a quarantine facility is mandatory and you are confined to a room for 14 days, all meals provided and at your own expense. You have two temp checks per day and tested once on arrival and if negative on day 13 you can go on day 14. My dh did this back in March. After the quarantine period your local police may require 14 days home isolation, varies from area to area. You cannot leave home for 14 days, no exceptions.
So what is life like now?
School as normal, sports competitions, school play etc
Friends travelling in China, eating out at restaurants, visiting each other at home etc.