Where are people catching it?

[ilkleymoorbartat]

Presumably people in Tier 4 are hardly using public transport, the buses in London are empty. Schools are off, pubs are closed. Everyone I know is obeying the rules, possibly going for outside walks with one other person. Where is this massive spread coming from?

One person I know caught it at work (train driver) and passed it on to his wife. Another caught it at school (teacher) and infected his wife. A friend of mine lost both her parents to it in two different hospitals. They picked it up there, and sadly died.

I would say schools just prior to breaking up for the holidays and then passing it on to their family members based on the people I know with it. But also people are meeting in large groups - several households - outside and clearly think as they are outside it doesn’t matter and they don’t need to socially distance and they are walking side by side a couple of feet apart. Very frustrating. I couldn’t believe my eyes on Sunday when my household only went for a walk together. It was the busiest I have seen in my whole lifetime at this particular local nature reserve.

Workplaces, inter household, hospitals - at one point I read around 25% of positive Covid cases were nosocomial.

Schools

My father in law in a rest home RIP

3 I know before Christmas,
one family secondary school
one shopping
one family work related.

Most of the people I know aren't aresholes, so have stopped socialising.

Schools, Hospitals, Care Homes and Supermarkets. There is little to no spread outside of these areas.

1 friend a primary teacher (8 staff had positive tests), passed it on to her husband and 15 year old through home. One hospitalised with liver problems caught it there and died.

Zero social distancing in supermarkets and local playgrounds full despite Tier 4 in area.
Also local shopping precinct has all coffee shops open, restaurant open as serving hot drinks and food to take away and groups of people stood outside in all areas chatting with no masks.
That’s how.

A lot of people catch it in hospital

www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-rising-number-of-hospital-admissions-potentially-caught-the-virus-in-hospital-12165918

Remember the time lag. 5 days for symptoms to show, generally about a week after that for cases that worsen to require hospital treatment. So we have a rough fortnight lag.

Cases from schools etc are showing up now. Xmas cases will start to show in about a week to ten days.

stovetopespresso

I made one post to point out the poster was being vile. What on earth are you talking about?

If someone posts nasty comments people are going to point it out. Doesn't matter what side of the argument you are on. Unless you are working to secondary playground rules of engagement and even then that is only the 5% of kids.

@Bluebird2021

non essential retail masquerading as 'essential'

Eh? How can they be catching it any more from "non" essential retail to "essential"

Of my friends and family in Tier 4:

House parties with 17 others (photos on instagram!)
Birthday parties with eight friends round from four households
A few of the girls just popping round for a curry
Five households round on Christmas day
Extended family staying for two weeks over Christmas and New Year.
Going out for dinner and drinks in a nearby Tier 2 area.

@LittleFir

Of my friends and family in Tier 4:

House parties with 17 others (photos on instagram!)
Birthday parties with eight friends round from four households
A few of the girls just popping round for a curry
Five households round on Christmas day
Extended family staying for two weeks over Christmas and New Year.
Going out for dinner and drinks in a nearby Tier 2 area.

And this is just the friends and family I KNOW of!

@MumToBe1980

Amazon! They are distributing covid with their parcels, well they seem to be the only winner in this pandemic! 🤔🤔🤔

I think you are on to something

My daughter caught it in a secondary school. She's a teacher.

The government are putting the virus into bottles of zoflora and Mrs Hinch spring awakening febreeze

A friend tested positive today.

Her brother attended Xmas Day with her and her parents. Proceeded to cough over them

@Ranald Eh? How can they be catching it any more from "non" essential retail to "essential"

If your argument had any logic, what would be the point of closing non-essential shops?

The point is, the more people mix, in queues at tills, or in shops with no ventilation, the more risk and infections.

People are still queuing in and shopping in places like B&Q, Wilko, The Range, M&S, and so on. Just because those shops sell DIY stuff ( essential?) or food, but people break the rules and browse for clothes, try them on, or just go out shopping because they are bored at home.

Schools. 4 families near me, all have dcs at local secondary and primary.

Schools, took a week for me to show my symptoms from school and 9 days to get my positive test result. Then it’s the spread to their family’s.

@CantSayJack

Zero social distancing in supermarkets and local playgrounds full despite Tier 4 in area. Also local shopping precinct has all coffee shops open, restaurant open as serving hot drinks and food to take away and groups of people stood outside in all areas chatting with no masks. That’s how.

But do you know anyone who caught it there?

Primary school-last week of term.

Of my friends and family in Tier 4:House parties with 17 others (photos on instagram!)
Birthday parties with eight friends round from four households
A few of the girls just popping round for a curry
Five households round on Christmas day
Extended family staying for two weeks over Christmas and New Year. Going out for dinner and drinks in a nearby Tier 2 area.

Did they all catch covid, and have you verified that's where they all contracted it? Or.... are you just spouting crap?