Where are people catching it?

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Presumably people in Tier 4 are hardly using public transport, the buses in London are empty. Schools are off, pubs are closed. Everyone I know is obeying the rules, possibly going for outside walks with one other person. Where is this massive spread coming from?

Oh definitely think it’s just a cold - but even a cold I’m puzzled as to how we can get one without leaving the house

waffly exactly. thousands if not tens of thousands. And potentially not our entire family 🙄

I caught it from OH who caught it from asymptomatic primary children in his school who subsequently tested positive when our area started lateral flow testing.

I have passed it on to my parents. I don’t know about the people in my school who were my close contacts. Thankfully there were only 6 rather than big classes.

Public transport, shops, cafes and restaurants were all very busy in my area up to Christmas Eve. Social distancing was non existent. Kids still having birthday parties and sleepovers and it's ok 'because they are in a school bubble anyhow', teens meeting up with friends for same reasons, people mixing with other households in restaurants for 'business meetings'. Lots of people in DCs school have been all over the country for Christmas, some have even been abroad although in Tier 4 we are not supposed to travel. Basically people don't give a sh**.

@notangelinajolie how long do you have to be in contact with someone for the app to notify you? I thought it was longer than the few moments you'd be near someone in Tesco. I wonder if any of your neighbours have tested positive? The chap on our ground floor did and everyone in the block got a notification, despite us all being separate households and having had no contact with him. I've seen posts here from people where similar has happened.

School children took it home in last week of term, spread it to families who spread it to their friends and families over Christmas.

I have had it for a week now, it’s awful and I have no idea where I got it from, two primary age school children so they could have brought it home with them I suppose but they are fine and no cases reported in either of their classes. Other than that I’ve only been to the supermarket though I was having daily walks outside prior to falling ill. I really don’t know where I’ve got it but it is seriously horrible.

All current figures are from before schools closed. It's OK though as primary kids can mix with 30 households again from Monday where those parents like myself can still go into an office of about 100 people as they won't let people work from home. But my child cannot see a grandparent. This is why it's spreading. High-school is one step but they need to do a proper hard lock down. We know it's coming they just keep dragging it out.

I had an incident 2 weeks ago. Went to endocrinologist alone, sat in the waiting room with a mask, had my appointment used Uber to get there and back. Got a call the next morning saying Doctor had a temperature so I needed to isolate which I did and turn did the PCR test which was negative. I think this new variation is probably spreading faster hence the rise in cases is just not those who are breaking the rules. I am in the SW area and there is a street completely empty by the amount of parking spots available and the houses in darkness. We are in tier 4 so where is everyone?? It’s a shocking state of affairs some people think the rules don’t apply to them. The 2 people I know of who got the virus both picked it up in a pub/bar. I know one person who is on tinder who has dated 6 different guys since March and hasn’t caught it yet. So very confused at how covid picks it’s victims.

I work in the field. We really don't think there is major spread in for example big supermarkets or restaurants because they've got it pretty well organised.
Schools, anywhere where people get drunk and massively house hold groups and friends are the culprits. We all have a "stranger danger" inbuilt alert, but in reality meeting friends and family, being too polite to distance, thinking it'll be ok "just this once and I won't stay long" the inadvertent 2ft distance which feels like 2 metres but isnt are the danger. The likelihood of catching from somebody you don't know is far less than the likelihood of stranger infection.
I'm in a rural area, it's on all the local farms because they see it as an urban problem and they KNOW each other; why would they infect me? I've known them all their life.....

In work, we’re in Wales and when I contacted public health Wales to report an outbreak they said over 90% of workplaces in Wales have it.

I just don't know. My son's school has no cases, boarding school Somerset. I don't know anyone personally who has had it. We are now in tier three so must be on the rise here.

*the likelihood of catching from some one you DO know is far higher than the chance of catching it from a stranger

My son was sent home from school to isolate after coming into contact with someone infected. Both he and I tested positive the following week. I hadn’t been anywhere else so it must have come from school.

People not wearing mask, not keeping distance, your lucky every time I go out someone gets too close. I dance around people but still some selfish numpty gets too close.

My son works for the London Underground, he caught it at work just before Christmas.

Are you mad? Have you not sen the shoppers in Oxford St just before Christmas??

I work in retail and before the November lockdown my oh caught it from a customer in the shop.... and this is because of too many claiming exemption in my opinion.... strange how we have had lots come in wearing a mask or visor with medical conditions so should be exempt.... but the ones claiming exemption outwardly seem young and healthy (I know some will have hidden disabilities) we have even had a family of adults in all seemingly exempt.... I don’t believe 60% of the people claiming exemption are exempt at all.... when one was queried (no lanyard) and we accepted what they said basically admitted they thought covid was bull... that is why we are in this position

I'm in London, and whilst everywhere is 'closed', bars, pubs and restaurants are still able to sell takeaways. The bar in my street reopened yesterday or the day before, and tonight I can hear voices gathered outside there again. During the November lockdown, there were hundreds there on weekends, so will be interesting to see how it is tomorrow night. Apparently the police are 'keeping an eye', but this only seems to happen during the day when the place isn't even open. The very first lockdown, the only places open near me were supermarkets / food shops (most with queues and someone checking numbers on the door) and a Gail's Bakery doing click and collect or takeaway only (massive queue every day). This time round, every café and restaurant has stayed open for takeaway / delivery (including Starbucks on Christmas Day!) and lots of shops were doing click & collect type stuff before Christmas at least (I haven't been out much since). It is far from quiet here, and you could see people packing up and coming back over Christmas too despite being told not to.

I'm lucky in that I've always worked from home, neither of us needs to commute and between us there has only been one off peak tube journey since March for a routine hospital appointment. I've probably only been inside a shop no more than 10-15 times in the past 9 months (already set up for online shopping, and so many other places here now offering all sorts of things delivered, so really hasn't been a need to), no children living at home, and a big park nearby, but I do realise that not everyone is as lucky in pandemic life.

Having said that, I realise it's a simple matter of wrong place / wrong time, and despite all of the above there's no guarantee I'm safe from catching it so try to follow the principle of 'assume you've got it' when out and about, rather than 'try not to catch it'.

Judging by my next-door neighbour and social media contacts, there are a lot of people who are not following the rules. They all seem to be parents of primary school age children, perhaps them going to school with little social-distancing has led to complacency? The woman next door has not adhered to the rules on several occasions over the last week and one relative has flouted them left, right & centre, absolutely appalling.

DH caught it from a colleague, colleague caught from his a symptomatic wife who works in a school and a care home. At the time we were in tier 1 and we had seen several close family members in our home. No one caught it from DH. That was pre the new strain though.

From the media... get rid of the mainstream media and the virus would vanish too!!!!

People assess their own risk too low. They allow themselves exceptions to the rules because they think it's okay, perhaps only on this occasion, or because of circumstances. Of course, when people who have made exceptions for themselves and then not gotten it, instead of thinking they had a lucky escape, they might think it was actually safe, which reduces the threshold for breaking the rules a next time. The risk level in their risk assessment goes down. We need far more media coverage of how bad it actually is now - it's close to the peak in April, but with far more lenient restrictions and covid fatigue (we all want it to be over) playing a role too.

I know two people who got tested positive this week at a bus depot

sorry i should clarify...they work at a bus dept