Where are people catching it?

[ilkleymoorbartat]

Presumably people in Tier 4 are hardly using public transport, the buses in London are empty. Schools are off, pubs are closed. Everyone I know is obeying the rules, possibly going for outside walks with one other person. Where is this massive spread coming from?

Nursery. There is an outbreak at our nursery- both staff and children- and our friends also caught it from their daughter who is at a (different) nursery.

The person I know who currently has it works for the NHS. Her DH and DC have now tested positive too.

From Monday it will be primary schools. Which it is already tbh.

Taking DS to A& E, other then that we have been in for weeks. One walk in the woods where we saw no one and one trip to the corner shop, in masks for a minute. It is impossible to hide from this, we have to leave the house at some point or take in some shopping . No matter how careful you it is a virus, it will infect people who are partying, it will infect people who are walking the dog.

[quote Canyoncall]**@ruthW* My daughter caught it in a secondary school. She's a teacher.*

I hope she's well and receiving appropriate care (if needed) but where is your evidence?[/quote]
She hasn't been anywhere else, so must have caught it at school. She's been in no shops and seen no one.

She's fine now thank you. Just had a mild cold over Christmas. she tested positive on 24th Dec.

Schools and care homes are the two places those I know have most likely or definitely contracted it from.

As it doesn't seem to have been mentioned ,I'm just popping on to add public transport to the list .

SE London here and there is much travel by bus - this is how many get to school ,work ,supermarket .

There are always 2 or 3 passengers either without a mask or with one that is pulled down as soon as they are past the driver or worn not covering their nose .

I am reassessing my need to go out and buy food .

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4119237-Poll-Have-you-broken-the-rules-and-WYBU?pg=1

Here you go! The majority of people on this thread are happily breaking the rules..... this is how it spreads....

The virus is spreading despite people following the rules.

It's a dangerous myth that it's only because people are 'breaking the rules' that the virus is spreading.

@SideboardOfDoom

Anecdotal but a friend of mine works for track and trace. The one thing they have noted about the people she calls (i.e. the people who have tested positive to get their contacts) is that they have been EVERYWHERE. Out and about, seeing relatives, lots of visits to shops, hospitality (when it was open), etc. They don’t really speak to anyone who goes to the shop once a week and doesn’t really see anyone.

This is more likely the case.

We just aren't seeing these people on this thread because no-one wants to come on and say "Well...I'm not sure. It could have been any of the ten places I went to the three days before"

@Staffy1

I know its easy to say, but try not to worry too much.. hospitals tend to be quite good at the moment and you tend not to be waiting around much.. thats chester hospital anyway x

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum
That was a rather cryptic 'Really?'
Yes I was wondering. I haven't had a meal indoors with anyone other than my husband since 31 October (in a restaurant), I've had a haircut, I've done a bit of local Christmas shopping in the brief interlude between the Nov/Dec lockdown and going into Tier 4 (from Tier 2, annoyingly). As a couple we met two people for a walk also in that window. We toasted our neighbours from our doorsteps on Christmas morning. That's the sum total of my mixing.
The protocols were there and largely being observed. I have personally known only three people so far who have, wittingly at least, had COVID and that was in March and they all worked in London. So yes, I was wondering where and how it is being spread, given the rules and regulations. It might well be via children and others who won't or can't abide by the measures, I guess.

The track and trace never seems to publicise where people have contracted it e.g. ASDA or the library or wherever. So I say again, I was indeed wondering where and how it was being passed on. And I think I'm entitled to wonder.

@fluffiphlox

Go on the thread that's asking Who's Following the Rules?

That'll answer your question.

@Nanny0gg
Thanks I will do. There seem to be so many threads on this.

Peridito I'm in London and have stopped using buses in the last couple of weeks for the same reason. Too many people taking masks off or lowering them once they are past the driver.

I know of people who have caught it in hospital, which is not surprising.

Some others were sharing lifts while working together. The sharing lifts seemed the deciding factor as to who caught it!

And sadly I've heard of two bus drivers being bad with it.

Dh and I have been home since Christmas Eve - only place we’ve been is local shop once for milk (dh) and dog walking. Have woken up today both with something that I think is a bad cold (shivery, sniffly etc). I cannot work our how we could have caught it.

@ktp100

It's looking increasingly like mask wearing, hand washing & 2 metres of space aren't enough.

I do have to say though, on the few occasions I ventured out to a shop before Xmas they were rammed & had more than it's fair share of teenagers not wearing masks and men trolling about with the noses hanging over their masks like flacid penises of doom.

You only have to read a few threads on here to realise how many people are rule breaking.

Time fore another full lockdown. We only have ourselves to blame.

No we don't 'only have ourselves to blame'. Covid is a virus which is exceptionally good at what viruses do - particularly the new variant - and that's to spread. The posters here who have caught it (or known people who've caught it) from work, school or medical appointments aren't 'to blame'. Some people break the rules but most don't, and given the numbers of infections it's obvious that hundreds of thousands of people who have stuck religiously to the rules have contracted it.

Quit it with the blame game already.

@Duemarch2021, thank you.

@2021booklover I guess you might not have caught it. You could just have a bad Cold?

The people I know who have it/ had it in the last few weeks work in a shop work in a school or had kids at school.

Think how many people would not have got it if school closed a few days early.

Fingers crossed I've not caught it but I am currently self isolating because the app says I came into close contact with someone with Covid at Tescos.

@notangelinajolie

Fingers crossed I've not caught it but I am currently self isolating because the app says I came into close contact with someone with Covid at Tescos.

Just adding that he app didn't say I caught it at Tescos. But seeing as Tesco is the only place I went on the day they say I was in close contact with someone then it can't be anywhere else.