Where are people catching it?

[ilkleymoorbartat]

Presumably people in Tier 4 are hardly using public transport, the buses in London are empty. Schools are off, pubs are closed. Everyone I know is obeying the rules, possibly going for outside walks with one other person. Where is this massive spread coming from?

@TammyHullfigure

You do understand that 1/3rd of people are asymptomatic, don't you? But every person then goes on to infect 2 others, on average,

Perfectly, thanks! But the question is "where are people catching it?" Not, "how many people have you seen breaking the rules?"

Well if you can’t see a link between increased frequency and duration of social contacts and passing on the coronavirus then perhaps you need to go and do some wider reading...

All from schools all hospitals here.

People like our neighbours who had a party, lots of very drunk women falling over and having fags out the window

Well if you can’t see a link between increased frequency and duration of social contacts and passing on the coronavirus then perhaps you need to go and do some wider reading..

Perhaps you need to do some critical thinking. That poster listed a load of "scenarios" (possibly fabricated) of things she has seen that she doesn't like. No evidence that that spread anything. The fast spreading is from workplaces, education and supermarkets (according to the studies I've seen).

I went to the supermarket the day before Christmas Eve and some aisles were packed (toys, alcohol). I was quite shocked to see it like that, and I am actually quite relaxed. Maybe the number of people inside the supermarket was ok but the concentration of people in some aisles was too much, no social distancing at all.

My relative broke a bone and went to hospital. Tested negative, kept in, tested positive 5 days later and died the following weekend. So in their case, it was from the hospital.

@TheWashingMachine

People like our neighbours who had a party, lots of very drunk women falling over and having fags out the window

How many caught covid at the event?

@poppy2021 I'm so sorry

I know of two families who caught it after their secondary school aged kids caught it in their final week at school and brought it home.

Regarding supermarkets - it just seems mad that you try to social distance all round the shops, wear masks but then everybody has to press the same buttons on the self serve machines and card machines!. Is that not the biggest risk in supermarkets?

Since schools have been closed in most places since the 18th, no one will have been catching it in schools since then. It may be being spread around families from one person bringing it home from school, but it won't have spread in schools since the end of term.

Hopefully families with a case are now isolating so the spread should slow.

@FoundSkipping I just gel immediately afterwards, don’t you? I do think they should put gel by the checkout though for this purpose.

It’s interesting that so many are saying schools and hospitals. Yes they are two places but most outbreaks here have also been in workplaces like factories, offices where colleagues have social areas in which they remove masks to eat and drink and don’t follow distancing and care homes. Most staff outbreaks in hospitals are staff to staff not staff to patient and vice versa because masks offer a good level of protection but staff work a shift then share cake. The number of times we told junior doctors off for ordering dominos to share is unbelievable. You can’t do that right now. They’ve actually stopped now they’ve seen an outbreak traced to this but previously seemed to think they were invincible.

True, although that's only 11 days. Plenty of time for a child to bring it home, pass it on to a sibling, then a parent who takes it into work, infects a colleague who takes it home to her family....

Even with the stricter lockdown in March, it was three weeks or so until hospitals hit their 'peak' of covid admissions I seem to remember.

[quote Parkmama]@annevonkleve I gave blood recently too and was surprised at how busy it was and how social distancing was not really possible, it all felt quite casual to be honest! [/quote]
Yes, it wasn't like that in March when I last donated, when it did feel like they were being very careful. It was almost like because everyone was wearing a mask, that was all that mattered. I thought it was "safer" in March.

I really thought the cases from school would be more or less registered by now, although I understand it can take 14 days.

I'm so sorry for all the people who have lost loved ones

Outside of schools I think the biggest risk is just family contact. I know of several people who claimed to be isolating after close contact with an infected person but later posted up pics on FB of themselves celebrating Christmas with extended family. People can say one thing and do another, lots of people think if they're not sick they're not going to infect anyone.

It'd just be so awful to get it now, just as there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Maybe this is the time where we say schools going online for the last week of term may have helped.

Yes, most schools have been closed since 18th, but if one child brings it home and passes it round, now is the time it will show. Incubation time being so long and asymptomatic spread are a deadly combination.

Everyone I know who's had it work in hospital, care or kids who I assume have caught it in school and nursery. My grandad caught it in hospital and passed away from it. Family memebers who work for the NHS caught it at work and spread it to their family members, who also work elsewhere and go to school.

@ilkleymoorbartat

I really thought the cases from school would be more or less registered by now, although I understand it can take 14 days.

I'm so sorry for all the people who have lost loved ones

I would have tested positive yesterday , using the timeline from when I was exposed at school , showing symptoms and tested positive. Definitely still within the time frame for schools.

@JacobReesMogadishu

Friend of mine has just tested positive. The only place she’s been to is work. They appear to have had some sort of super spreader event. Lots of people on that shift got it.

Big call centre type environment, well spread out (4m plus) amd everyone wearing masks.

They’ve been told it’s probably the new variant and that with the new one it will spread even when distanced. We’re in a tier 3 area but the worker who they think they got it from lives in a tier 4.

This will be down to the ventilation (or lack of natural ventilation) been seen in multiple work places

Schools. Everyone I know who has it, caught it from their child who got it at school!

Both of my friend's parents tested positive this week. They caught it from church.

DH works in a school. I'm dreading him going back in January.