Daily stats, numbers, data thread 28 Dec

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UK govt pressers Slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#table
School statistics Attendance explore-education-[statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/attendance-in-education-and-early-years-settings-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak]]
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHs England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSAO Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
CovidMessenger live update by council district in England www.covidmessenger.com/
Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, tests, ONS deaths [[public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
NI Dashboard app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9]]
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe Uk data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK read https_www.ecdc.europa.eu/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecdc.europa.eu%2Fen%2Fcases-2019-ncov-eueea
Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=gbr&areas=fra&areas=esp&areas=ita&areas=deu&areas=swe&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&byDate=1&cumulative=1&logScale=1&per100K=1&values=deaths
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

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No hospitalisations is definitely worth having. Wasn’t there an issue with a lack of older vaccine recipients, though? I’d ask these questions elsewhere, but I don’t want to hear anti vaccine rants.

Do we know why roll-out doesn't start until 4 January? I think I read that it can't be released from the factory until approval is given, so obviously there would be a delay until delivery, but would that take 5 days? I seem to remember it was less than 5 days after Pfizer approval that vaccination started - have I misremembered already?!

(I realise this isn't quite a data/stats question, but hopefully factual enough for this thread - I like it here!)

@Mrex I think the reason for using a 3 month period to define a reinfection is that anything less than that there's a chance of picking up traces of the initial infection still there - early reports of reinfection back in the spring turned out to be just that. So it's not that they're 100% sure nobody can ever be reinfected within 3 months (though it appears very unlikely)

I think they said on the news this morning (very scientific evidence I know ) that distribution would start today and tomorrow. Unfortunately we have bank holidays and weekends in the way of this one

@Aixenprovence - not sure. To allow for the second dose of Pfizer for initial recipients? To ensure it's issued fairly across all regions? So people can be sent invitations to turn up? The answer might be in the detailed briefing when it comes out, the Pfizer one had a lot of extra info.

@Aixen They're discussing the speed of roll out right now on radio 4. The CEO of Astrozenica just said they needed to produce training materials that reflect the details of the licencing it's just been given, train people to give it, and physically move supplies to vaccination centres.

Looking at the coming months he implied that they could produce the vaccine at whatever speed was needed but Hancock was then on and was non committal on how fast they could jab people - though did say he thought we'd be out this by the spring.

[quote Firefliess]@Mrex I think the reason for using a 3 month period to define a reinfection is that anything less than that there's a chance of picking up traces of the initial infection still there - early reports of reinfection back in the spring turned out to be just that. So it's not that they're 100% sure nobody can ever be reinfected within 3 months (though it appears very unlikely) [/quote]
There was a case report from May-ish that showed infection bu 2 discrete strains on RNA testing in a 5 or 6 week window.

@BigWoollyJumpers

J&J vaccine is the one to watch. Submission happening soon.

why is it the one to watch?

" Unfortunately we have bank holidays and weekends in the way of this one"

Yes - though I'd been assuming it would be a 7 day a week operation. (Just as I think testing carried on over Christmas Day and Boxing Day?!) Given current conditions, I'd be surprised if they weren't trying to achieve that, even through Bank Holidays. (Not underestimating the logistical difficulties, pressures on staff and so on. Definitely a case for paying double-time, bonuses etc, although I realise that doesn't address the stress.)

Allowing Pfizer second dose is a good point - though that will be an ongoing issue, I assume, as Pfizer will carry on alongside Astra Zeneca.

Ah - cross posted with Fire - thanks, that's interesting! Though didn't the Pfizer one need the same (training materials, delivery etc), and took less than 5 days from approval? I may be misremembering.

@Noellodee

No hospitalisations is definitely worth having. Wasn’t there an issue with a lack of older vaccine recipients, though? I’d ask these questions elsewhere, but I don’t want to hear anti vaccine rants.

I think I recall reading that the lack of older participants was in the trial arm that received half dose/full dose and not in the arm that received 2 full doses as they’ve reported good immune response in the elderly.

uk.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-vaccine/vaccine-hopes-rise-as-oxford-jab-prompts-immune-response-among-old-as-well-as-young-adults-idUSKBN27B0J1

@Aixen I think it was a few days for the Pfsiser one too

@Aixenprovence

Ah - cross posted with Fire - thanks, that's interesting! Though didn't the Pfizer one need the same (training materials, delivery etc), and took less than 5 days from approval? I may be misremembering.

I think Pfizer was approved on the 2nd and first vaccine given on the 8th, so a similar timeline

@alreadytaken

I decided to no longer post here, I sometimes read. However I am going to make one exception and say that what I learnt last time someone decided to behave like a troll and derail a thread was that you should report each and every post that breaches mumsnet guidelines.

The person behaving like a troll made more than one mistake. Vaccine combination trials are underway. The vector used for Oxford is not one anyone is expected to react to but that is why we have clinical trials, it has been tested. Clearly the troll is ill-informed and not a suitable person to listen to on vaccines or anything else, since they have shown so little sense on this.

Maybe they have shares in a different vaccine, maybe they are just an attention seeking idiot. Either way they are best reported and ignored.

I think the suspension on other threads is that the poster is sat drinking vodka and wearing a furry hat. Not into conspiracy theories but the constant trying to get in peoples heads that oxford isn't safe etc. That is a poster on a mission one way or another.

Anyway well done everyone here. Love reading your thread. It has given some interesting facts and view points throughout the pandemic.

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@alreadytaken
I decided to no longer post here

And yet the rest of your post shows that you still have much to give to the rest of us if you decide to change that strategy.

Can anyone interpret this tweet please re vaccine and breastfeeding? Is this in Ireland only? Or is it US?

twitter.com/caoimhew/status/1341812711714414595?s=21

[quote MRex]**@alreadytaken
I decided to no longer post here

And yet the rest of your post shows that you still have much to give to the rest of us if you decide to change that strategy.[/quote]
Agreed, I remember you @alreadytaken from previous threads and always thought of you as one of the core posters so I for one would be happy if you decided to contribute.

I must admit I shed a little tear this morning when I saw the news, I know it'll be a long time until I'm vaccinated but I'm hoping my DPs will be closer to the top of the list.

@Nogood I'm in a similar position - DH is over 50 (and may or may not be in the at risk group, tbc) So he'll get his I imagine by March. But the implications of giving 12 weeks of first dose first, must mean that there will then be quite a slow down in new people being offered their first dose while the vaccinaters are busy giving them all their second dose. It sounds to me that they're hoping to get through the over 50s and vulnerable in that first 12 weeks. I had hoped (personally!) that they'd then roll on down to the 45,-50 age group, etc. But I guess that may be slower now (or they may decide anyway to go next for high spreaders such as teachers or students rather than age based I guess)

Thanks, Marceline.

@NeurotreeWenceslas That link is for the Irish guidelines, though the CDC guidelines in the US say something similar-

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html

Ok thanks

What dosage of the Oxford vaccine did the MHRA approve, the SD/SD or LD/SD, and will there be more data released to the public?

Can we all be adult and kind to each other ? I think Oakfield was sincere ,had genuine concerns but became more and more driven and outspoken .I'm sure she felt ganged up on and this provoked her .

Possibly fuelled by Christmas spirit .They wouldn't be the first poster to let their enthusiasm run away from them .

Clearly she was wrong about the vector thing but that doesn't make her a liar or sinister .