Do you judge people for 'minor' rule breaks?

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So ten months into a pandemic- whether you agree with the harshness of the rules or not- I think most people would agree that the average person is likely to struggle with lockdown fatigue and wavering compliance.

So my question is, do you judge people for minor rule breaks? ie:

• someone seeing their partner who lives in another household, indoors (whether this be for mental health, or the fact most adult romantic relationships require physical contact)
• parents visiting uni students in halls
• grown adults visiting elderly parents who are lonely and isolated

If you think about it, if you live in some places up North, it's been illegal to see your partner who you don't live with for six months, providing you're not in a support bubble. And I know you can see people outdoors, but that's not conducive to a normal relationship. Or, in the case of the elderly, not healthy or comfortable.

So would you judge people for the above rule breaks, if it was genuinely they only tine they mixed with another household? And there is no support bubble?

This thread is mostly pointless, however I am simply wondering if anyone else is finding it hard now!

The above scenarios are all ones I know people in real life have done and I do not judge them. Apart from that, they wear masks, limit contact and mostly WFH.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55458992

Says it all about where the NHS is.
Scotland and Wales and England
It’s the same story.
Hope the rule breakers are happy with their rationalisations

This thread has been interesting. I'm glad most people don't judge for small infractions but I'm sorry to those who have lost family members.

Would people judge me for seeing my partner on NYE's? Haven't seen him indoors since July... It's been illegal.

I work from home, do online shopping and don't see anyone but my own household. I'm not eligible for a support bubble. Apart from three weeks in July, it's been illegal for me to see him indoors since March. It's really hit me today and I don't see our relationship can go on like this.

The only time I've broken the rules yet was to see a friend who attempted suicide last month, but I think even that is legal as I was preventing someone from harm.

No I don’t and we’ve done some minor infringements - for instance we didn’t see anyone Christmas Day but we did meet one other household indoors on Boxing Day. We also met as a group of 7 not 6 outdoors with one house hold a few weeks ago (tier 2).

Stupid infringements like large gatherings/feeling il but not isolating etc then I do judge.

I would definitely see him OP. Maybe keep seeing people to a very bare minimum for 2 weeks after NYE as a precaution.

@MummaBear4321

I don't see anyone else, really. I live in a houseshare with another couple who spend all day in their room, I may as well live alone but sadly don't so I can't legally form a support bubble.

We're moving in together as soon as my contract is up.

My issue is people reinterpreting the rules to suit them.
We have friends who have 3 children. One has come back from uni. 2 go to 2 different schools and different childcare settings. Her parents came for Christmas as their ‘childcare bubble’ they live a 100 miles alway and do no childcare for them.

Another couple has gone to each set of parents as they are both their ‘bubbles’. No children and very vulnerable parents. No one is alone.

On the flip side I have a friend who hasn’t seen her boyfriend inside since march. Frankly I think she deserves a night off from being so good.

@Sewsosew

That's basically my scenario with my partner except I saw him once in July. However, I think once I break the rules to see him once, I can't go back to how it was. I'm waiting for as long as I can, but I think once I see him that will be the 'end' of not seeing him indoors. That's why I'm trying to hold out a bit longer.

Yes I do judge in some circs as why should someone have a party while others stick to the rules? What makes them different?
I turn a blind eye to carefully visiting an elderly parent with distance factored in, but he moly if they’re in their own (and then they should be in a bubble. Obviously common sense prevails in these sort of situations.

Goodness I’m open mouthed at your admissions! The reason the numbers of people getting infected and spreading the virus is rising so high is because people take your irresponsible attitude to the risks.
If we all took your approach we’ll never kill this virus off they’ll be more deaths and further lockdowns, my son is a doctor and tells us first hand about the people dying alone on wards of all ages and fitness.
I’ve not seen any of my family over Xmas to avoid risk to us and to others. I hope for your families sake none of you get covid or long covid and need help from the already overstretched nhs.

we’ll never kill this virus off they’ll be more deaths and further lockdowns
You are deluded if you think we will ‘kill off ‘ the virus with lockdowns - that’s not how viruses work! The rationale for lockdown was to spare the’NHS’ from being over-capacity but the common belief seems to have emerged that it was to eradicated the disease.

I am tier 4 and partner of 10 years is tier 2. I was with him when the new tiers came in force and came home to visit my elderly father for Xmas. I have not been out and have just had contact with Dad. I will visit my partner for a few days over the new year. I am not above the law and think I have minimised all risks.

Frankly I am judging anyone who is going outside in the middle of a global pandemic unless they are a key worker.

Not only are they putting the health and lives of their families at risk but also that if everyone around them and everyone they may meet.

Too many people are prioritising going for walks in the park or buying gin from Asda over staying home and saving lives.

This will only be dealt with by a proper lockdown enforced by the army.

I really hope you are joking @LitPeach. If not, your existence must be full of misery and anger, you poor sod.

I don't judge people for breaking the rules if it's for their own mental health as I don't believe this is actually breaking the rules. In the case of your DP I don't consider that a rule break given its for your mental wellbeing. Plus you are very low risk of spreading anything given precautions.

I do judge the people who have house parties, parents that allow their children to have multiple sleep overs with their pals and allow their teenage children to have parties whilst they are in the house which is what is happening in our town.

@LitPeach

Frankly I am judging anyone who is going outside in the middle of a global pandemic unless they are a key worker.

Not only are they putting the health and lives of their families at risk but also that if everyone around them and everyone they may meet.

Too many people are prioritising going for walks in the park or buying gin from Asda over staying home and saving lives.

This will only be dealt with by a proper lockdown enforced by the army.

How ridiculous. I go to the park with my dog every morning, walking outside is immensely important for physical health and well-being. I see no one or maybe one or two people whilst out walking, and if I do see anyone I keep more than 2 metres apart, there is zero chance of transmitting the virus in an outdoor space at a distance from other people. What a sad and lonely existence locking yourself in the house all day, and completely pointless

I don't judge them. It would make me a hypocrite if I did.

@LitPeach

Frankly I am judging anyone who is going outside in the middle of a global pandemic unless they are a key worker.

Not only are they putting the health and lives of their families at risk but also that if everyone around them and everyone they may meet.

Too many people are prioritising going for walks in the park or buying gin from Asda over staying home and saving lives.

This will only be dealt with by a proper lockdown enforced by the army.

What a total twat

I judge those that moan (particularly on social media) about rule breakers and then go and manipulate the rule to suit themselves - looking at you step SIL who rolls her eyes on rule breakers yet conveniently happened to vacate her area that was about to go into tier 4 to stay at her second home in a very low case area... . Poor love didn't want to stay where she was

No I don't judge, I've been seeing my (very) elderly parents throughout the pandemic, perhaps people judge me - I really don't know and I'm not going to judge anyone else.

@LitPeach So you haven’t left your home in 9 months? (Unless you are a keyworker).

That’s not healthy at all.

@Nicknacky

Leaving home unnecessarily in the middle of a global pandemic is highly selfish behaviour that explains why the virus has not yet been eradicated.

@LitPeach So you haven’t left your home at all? So you potentially won’t go out for up to two years?

I’m not long in from a run. Clears my head and makes me feel much better about the world.

Hmmm not sure how well keeping people inside for months would go down..plus people need to go out! Dogs need walking etc. Those rules would be bonkers. Not selfish to go outside..be horrible to stop people being able to do so however so luckily it will never come to that..

I don't judge- no.

As a familyy of "rulebreakers" I think our reasons are justified.