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If not enough people take the vaccine?

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3littlewords · 24/12/2020 14:01

If those eligible for the vaccine decline to have it for whatever reason, will it mean restrictions will be in place for longer? Or will it be a case off tough luck you refused the vaccine take your chances?
I know a quite few people who would be eligible for the vaccine soon either due to their age , job or ECV and around 50% say they aren't having it, if that's the case nationally will it be enough to reduce transmission enough to ease restrictions? Or do I know just know an unusually high amount of weird people that don't want the vaccine? 🤔

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QueenStromba · 24/12/2020 14:11

The vaccine probably doesn't have a large enough effect on transmission to make up for increased asymptomatic spread and the inevitable change of behaviour in people who think they're protected anyway.

Mindymomo · 24/12/2020 14:13

Well if the people you know don’t want it, then the rest of us that do, may get it quicker. I don’t know anyone that isn’t going to have it. I will have to wait my turn, unfortunately.

pjani · 24/12/2020 14:14

I believe the UK has quite high rates of those with faith in vaccines (thankfully). I read around 80% have said they are willing. Combined with those that have had covid already, I am hoping would get us to herd immunity. I also hope some of the 20% might be willing after a bit more time (so long term effects seem less likely) and if they see friends/family getting it ok.

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3littlewords · 24/12/2020 14:39

@Mindymomo

Well if the people you know don’t want it, then the rest of us that do, may get it quicker. I don’t know anyone that isn’t going to have it. I will have to wait my turn, unfortunately.
Me too im only in my 30s so may never get it offered to me but I'd have it tomorrow if I could. I've heard many reasons why not to be vaccinated from the cautious to the outright bonkers. Chipped with a tracking device, government trying to control us, grow another head, its a ploy to give those taking the vaccine actual covid and kill them all off quicker. The best one I've heard is the vaccinations they've shown on TV are all for propaganda and there's no actual needle just someone pretending to inject a patient. Seriously these people live and breathe around us its scary!
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UnmentionedElephantDildo · 24/12/2020 14:42

I think that falls into the bucket of 'things to worry about only if they start to look likely'

YouGov poll last month had nearly 70% saying they would and. Further 10% undecided.

MarshaBradyo · 24/12/2020 14:42

Demand far outstrips supply

I’m willing to bet take up has been hood anyway. But if not we’ll move down the ages

MarshaBradyo · 24/12/2020 14:42

Good

HelloMissus · 24/12/2020 14:53

Take up amongst the elderly and vulnerable will be good, I’m willing to bet.
And where people fail to attend the vaccine is where possible given to others - NHS staff and carers rather than bin it.

TroubadorinTrouble · 24/12/2020 15:11

There’s a vocal minority who won’t have it but the vast majority will.

I note that most of the older generation are just having it and getting on with things. The same group who are least likely to use social media. Funny that.

annevonkleve · 24/12/2020 16:08

Enough people will have the vaccine. You only need the most important 20% to have it to have an impact of 80%.

And the vocal anti-vaxx minority will probably be the ones who don't really need it anyway. If they were vulnerable they would soon have it!

OpheliasCrayon · 24/12/2020 16:33

I actually don't know anyone who will have it. And they're definitely not anti vax. Even my DH who's a scientist has said he won't.
I can't have it anyway due to severe allergies (I can't even take the drugs to treat my own illnesses ) so I've never needed to consider it.

But I Literally know no one, including doctors who will.

AgeLikeWine · 24/12/2020 16:34

The overwhelming majority of healthcare workers, older people and those in vulnerable groups will get vaccinated, and that is what matters.

Will take-up in those groups be 100%? No, of course not, but those who are determined to take their chances with the virus are free to do so. Their life, their choice.

The situation among the young & healthy is likely to be different, but many of those who are currently saying they don’t want the vaccine are likely to change their mind when they realise that they won’t be allowed entry into other countries without proof of vaccination. British people do like their holidays, after all...

MarshaBradyo · 24/12/2020 16:34

@OpheliasCrayon

I actually don't know anyone who will have it. And they're definitely not anti vax. Even my DH who's a scientist has said he won't. I can't have it anyway due to severe allergies (I can't even take the drugs to treat my own illnesses ) so I've never needed to consider it.

But I Literally know no one, including doctors who will.

That seems like a group set apart, well from here anyway

Everyone I know offered it is really happy about it

OpheliasCrayon · 24/12/2020 16:39

@MarshaBradyo it's not one particular group. As in it's not just my friendship group. It's across the board of people I know - colleagues, elderly neighbours, friends, husband's friends ... I've not come across anyone who has yet said they will have it. I know several elderly people and some medics who have been offered but turned it down

MarshaBradyo · 24/12/2020 16:40

Fair enough. Just so different to people I know! Id take it a shot fnar

Sadly will have to wait

OpheliasCrayon · 24/12/2020 16:41

I'm in no doubt the UK would have no chance of achieving herd immunity.

lunar1 · 24/12/2020 16:42

Leave them in lockdown and let the rest of us get on with our life. I'm mostly joking 🙃

OpheliasCrayon · 24/12/2020 16:43

Well as that includes a large number of specialist teachers, primary teachers, scientists and doctors...I'm not sure you want to lock us all up

OpheliasCrayon · 24/12/2020 16:48

If I could have it , I wouldn't. I'm CEV, I'd much rather risk covid. I've worked throughout , happy to do that and take the risk in schools. Wouldn't take a vaccine. I will be offered it soon ish I imagine , allergies or not I wouldn't have it

ChristmasinJune · 24/12/2020 16:53

@OpheliasCrayon

Well as that includes a large number of specialist teachers, primary teachers, scientists and doctors...I'm not sure you want to lock us all up
Nobody's suggesting for a second that you should all be "locked up" Hmmbut people who choose not to vaccinate will surely understand that at some point the rest of the world will stop isolating to protect them and they'll have to take their chances with the virus. It's unfortunate for those people who aren't able to have it (like yourself) and I hope that as time goes on, people will see that having the vaccine is a responsible choice to protect everybody.
OpheliasCrayon · 24/12/2020 16:57

I don't view it as unfortunate for me, I respect anyone's wishes not to be vaccinated, or take any medications for anything.
We won't achieve herd immunity, not a chance...

MargosKaftan · 24/12/2020 16:59

Yep, there will be a point when enough people have been either vaccinated or had covid, that it won't be that big a deal if a few of the refusers end up in hospital. It'll be "oh dear, thats a shame they died early" rather than "we need to all wear masks and close industries to protect them". Bare in mind many "high risk" people have had covid and been fine. Its not a given those.who refuse will be the same ones who'll be the ones to get very sick from it.

OpheliasCrayon · 24/12/2020 17:02

@MargosKaftan

Yep, there will be a point when enough people have been either vaccinated or had covid, that it won't be that big a deal if a few of the refusers end up in hospital. It'll be "oh dear, thats a shame they died early" rather than "we need to all wear masks and close industries to protect them". Bare in mind many "high risk" people have had covid and been fine. Its not a given those.who refuse will be the same ones who'll be the ones to get very sick from it.
Indeed , I've had covid and I'm "CEV" . Nothing happened. I've currently got a cold now that's worse.

Maybe we will just have enough people who have had the virus + those vaccinated sure - I buy that. But through vaccinations alone, no

ChristmasinJune · 24/12/2020 17:02

@OpheliasCrayon

I don't view it as unfortunate for me, I respect anyone's wishes not to be vaccinated, or take any medications for anything. We won't achieve herd immunity, not a chance...
You sound really pleased about us not achieving herd immunity, I'm intrigued. How do you envisage things developing over the next few years then?
MarshaBradyo · 24/12/2020 17:03

Maybe we will just have enough people who have had the virus + those vaccinated sure - I buy that. But through vaccinations alone, no

Yes and that’s fine. I’d prefer the vaccine way but if others take CV approach that’s also ok. We won’t eliminate it anyway.