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Kate and William

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onedayinthefuture · 22/12/2020 09:06

This is not a Kate and William bashing post. I actually really like them, despite everything, they actually seem pretty normal and look like a lovely family. But they are in the press on a Christmas walk (Sandringham estate, but a public event) with Prince Edward and Sophie's family. With the kids it makes 9. I thought their official residence was Kensington so they are from a Tier 4 area! Also children in England DO count towards the total of 6 (it's only under 1s who don't). It's not just them, it's all the celebs in Dubai or the Maldives as well. It's not right that my kids can't see their cousins for a Christmas outing. Tier 2 Christmas events have banned families from Tiers 3 and 4 visiting. No wonder we see less cooperation as time goes on, a year in a child's life is a LONG time to be cut off from loved ones.

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Theimpossiblegirl · 22/12/2020 09:09

I agree, it's so wrong. The rich can do what they like, while I can't even see my mum because she's in Wales. William and Kate should be leading by example, they've been pretty tone deaf throughout though.

Fizbosshoes · 22/12/2020 09:10

I think they went to Sandringham before tier 4 (or possibly tier 3) happened.
It made me laugh I saw a pic with the 9 of them and it said they'd "inadvertantly" broken the rules (as if they are either unaware of the rule, or cant count ! Grin)

PicsInRed · 22/12/2020 09:10

Let them eat cake Zoom call!

Covidrelapse · 22/12/2020 09:11

Agree, it’s incredibly insensitive and shows how out of touch with the real world they are. I used to quite like the royals but their behaviour during this pandemic makes me think let’s just get rid of them. They’re All for show but aren’t behaving in a responsible way so what message does that send?

Namechange2020lalala · 22/12/2020 09:13

Is it not a work engagement?

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onedayinthefuture · 22/12/2020 09:14

@Covidrelapse

Agree, it’s incredibly insensitive and shows how out of touch with the real world they are. I used to quite like the royals but their behaviour during this pandemic makes me think let’s just get rid of them. They’re All for show but aren’t behaving in a responsible way so what message does that send?
Agreed, they all disappeared to their country estates during the first lockdown when others travelling to their second homes were stopped by police.

I accept I'm a pleb and will always be a pleb BUT plebs have always been able to see family and friends. There is literally not much left.

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Funkypolar · 22/12/2020 09:15

If a Mumsnetter posted that they were planning to do that on here, they would be roasted.

Mrsbrownsgargoyle · 22/12/2020 09:15

Meh

BlackLambAndGreyFalcoln · 22/12/2020 09:22

They left as soon as their kids schools broke up. Private schools break up early so London was in tier 2 at that point, so they didn't break any rules by going to Norfolk. The walk, yes the way that you've described it, would break the rule of 6.

Mousehole10 · 22/12/2020 09:28

Tier 4 you can only meet up with one other person outside and also cannot travel in/out of tier 4 area. If they’ve broken this it’s so insensitive to all of us who can’t now even see family on Xmas day

Forgetmenot157 · 22/12/2020 09:30

It will be classed as a work engagement!

HugeAckmansWife · 22/12/2020 09:33

I thought it was kids below school age that didn't count in the 6? So their youngesr wouldn't count. How old were the others cousins? In the end though, while I agree with the general point that they shouldn't be exempt, the common sense actual risk increase of 8 instead of 6 isn't something I can get exercised about.

2020inhouse · 22/12/2020 09:34

Tone deaf and we are all paying for them

wonderstuff · 22/12/2020 09:36

They would have gone to Sandringham as soon as school broke up. They've got something like 30 acres there.
I would have thought they'd at least be careful about being photographed breaking the rules. I think they should be fined, shouldn't be one rule for them, but of course it is, and since bloody Barnard Castle it's been clear its only us plebs expected to think about what we're doing.
Wonder if BoJo will stay put for Christmas or piss off to Chequers?

RoseAndRose · 22/12/2020 09:37

They said they didn't know that each household was making a visit that day.

And yeah, I've run into people I know during days out. Genuine accident, not accident-done-a-purpose. I didn't think William was so close to his uncle as to risk the adverse publicity of mingling at a Christmas attraction (bound to be spotted/photo'ed) so on this one I tend to believe them.

But what were the Wessexes doing in Norfolk? I thought they lived in Surrey/London. Or had they moved to Sandringham a while ago?

wonderstuff · 22/12/2020 09:39

In England children of any age are included in the 6.

Fieldofyellowflowers · 22/12/2020 09:41

If it is a public event then is it not royal duties? So not the same thing as a big family get together.

Are they staying at Sandringham for the time being? Is Edward doing the same? If so, they are classed as one household. And they would have moved in before tier 4 was announced.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 22/12/2020 09:41

They moved from their T2 workplace residence to their T2 private residence a while back.

Plsv87 · 22/12/2020 09:45

Agree. Also thought it was horribly distasteful to publicly take their children to a pantomime when half the country was in tier 3 and could only dream of taking their kids out for a christmas treat.

Fieldofyellowflowers · 22/12/2020 09:50

Actually, Norfolk is still in tier 2. Aren't you allowed to meet up with another household outdoors in tier 2? And they moved to Norfolk before the tier 4 announcement.

@Plsv87 Yeah, disgusting wasn't it. Some royals giving theatre actors (who have also had a difficult year) a boost.

wonderstuff · 22/12/2020 09:54

Tier 2 rule of 6 applies to gatherings, you can meet up outside in public or on private property, but only outside and only in max group of 6, children of any age are included in the group.

Dillo10 · 22/12/2020 09:55

They are the royal family
The normal rules do not apply, no matter how much you hope they do

Hapixmas · 22/12/2020 09:56

Children do count to the rule of 6, even under 1s. Pre schoolers only didn't count when we were in lockdown in November and adults could only meet up with one other adult.

PicsInRed · 22/12/2020 09:59

It's not an official engagement just because they're outside.

They did wrong and they know it - but they probably believe it's ok for them because there aren't many people like them and they live in big open houses, whilst there are lots of plebs, living in more crowded houses and working less socially distanced roles, so they likely presume plebs need to be more tightly controlled to contain the spread. Unlike them.

They are exempt from the rules in their own minds.

Fieldofyellowflowers · 22/12/2020 10:01

@PicsInRed

OP said it was a public event though? In which case it was a public engagement.
If both families are staying at Sandringham, they could be seen as being from the same household.

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