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If freight isn't allowed in from France

541 replies

justgeton · 20/12/2020 21:37

What does this mean for our food chain?!

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Wherediditgo · 21/12/2020 07:34

It won’t have a massive impact on supply chain of food.
But what will is all the fucking morons who will immediately start panic buying because people are telling them that it will.

justanotherneighinparadise · 21/12/2020 07:36

@Wherediditgo

It won’t have a massive impact on supply chain of food. But what will is all the fucking morons who will immediately start panic buying because people are telling them that it will.
The supermarkets will put restrictions on quantities again. This is panic buy mark three.
EmmaWithTheGreatHair · 21/12/2020 07:38

I should be collecting my M&S Christmas food order tomorrow, really trying not to panic!

Need to step away from this thread.

tinselearedcow · 21/12/2020 07:39

@Wherediditgo

It won’t have a massive impact on supply chain of food. But what will is all the fucking morons who will immediately start panic buying because people are telling them that it will.
Yes, exactly.
Nc135 · 21/12/2020 07:41

Freight is allowed in. Stop panicking people

tinselearedcow · 21/12/2020 07:41

@EmmaWithTheGreatHair

I should be collecting my M&S Christmas food order tomorrow, really trying not to panic!

Need to step away from this thread.

It will be fine, your goods will already be in the UK and in some warehouse somewhere waiting for you. Mumsnet has gone full on hyperbole mode on this issue. So has the media.
rosie1959 · 21/12/2020 07:43

@Originalyellowbelly

I'm due an online supermarket delivery tomorrow, I'm not going to get it am i?
I am due mine Wednesday I fully expect to get most if not all of it supermarkets carry large stocks
DailyPotion · 21/12/2020 07:48

Won't the French soon have mutinous lorry drivers on their hands if they don't let them work? Not to mention farmers whose produce is rotting?

EmmaWithTheGreatHair · 21/12/2020 07:49

@tinselearedcow thanks for knocking some sense into me. I’m just glad I picked an early morning slot to collect, I imagine it will be chaos!

Goodmorninglights · 21/12/2020 07:51

Will this affect petrol and diesel supplies?

tinselearedcow · 21/12/2020 07:52

[quote EmmaWithTheGreatHair]@tinselearedcow thanks for knocking some sense into me. I’m just glad I picked an early morning slot to collect, I imagine it will be chaos![/quote]
It will! Enjoy your Christmas.

PandemicPavolova · 21/12/2020 07:52

Warehouses are currently absolutely full for Xmas, there are no immediate issues.

I expect there will be kinks in the supply chain in the coming weeks but not enough to make a huge impact.

PandemicPavolova · 21/12/2020 07:53

Good morning lights,

I did think that and luckily have a full tank already!

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 21/12/2020 07:55

@Goodmorninglights

Will this affect petrol and diesel supplies?
No.

But due to this kind of hysteria there will be huge queues anyway. Even though people should not be going anywhere.

Also: the ban is ONLY for 48 hours, and ONLY affects accompanied lorries. Unaccompanied trailers and freight coming from the Dutch, Belgian and German ports is not affected.

All good for pre Xmas shops is ALREADY IN TNE COUNTRY.

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 21/12/2020 07:56

All FOOD for pre Christmas shopping is already in the country.

Nc135 · 21/12/2020 07:57

@RainingBatsAndFrogs thanks for reassuring. And freight is still allowed into the country. The ban is 48 hours out only.

RedToothBrush · 21/12/2020 07:59

@Wherediditgo

It won’t have a massive impact on supply chain of food. But what will is all the fucking morons who will immediately start panic buying because people are telling them that it will.
See there has been a problem for several weeks about stuff getting through in a timely fashion. This is in part because they have been getting through extra due to possible no deal. So we have extra on this side of the channel.

However. Where there is and has always been a problem which has been long stressed is with Just In Time manufacturing (which covers things like cars but also food processing) and with fresh produce which can not be stored.

So theres no fucking point stockpiling because anything that you could stockpile is well covered and we have lots of. Or its fresh so will spoil. Or its going to manufacturing so you aren't going to notice that immediately (theoretically this means that anyone stockpiling should be stockpiling ready meals or things containing milk products rather than pasta, bog roll and tins of flaming tomatoes).

In some respects things happening this week is better than last week as many factories do a full Christmas closure so it could be worse. I have been hearing from friends about Just In Time production issues for the last couple of weeks already, so its likely to make the problem worse.

Its also likely to be manufactured non perishable goods (like toys and furniture) which is more likely to get delivered as it wont even be put on lorries now. Ikea have been having a nightmare with stock, but their problem now is that if they send more stock they face huge extra unplanned haulage fees for sitting in a giant traffic jam.

So it does mean potentially more empty shelves. Just not in the tinned goods and pasta aisles which is where everyone with freak out and rush to because they dont get it and aren't paying proper attention.

Tbh if you were ordering anything large that might come from Europe you definitely should have thought about it weeks ago due to Brexit and the likelihood of issues.

My prediction is we will see MN go into melt down over undelivered Christmas presents plus the usual howling about supermarket substitutions, not full on food shortages in the supermarket. Provided we do not have panic buying (most people who can be well stocked are well stocked already at this point in the pandemic / before Christmas / before Brexit which is a plus).

Thats next week...

Originalyellowbelly · 21/12/2020 08:01

rosie1959 fingers crossed, my DH wants to go to the shop and get veg, cat stuff etc just in case but I don't want to end up with too much and it gets wasted.

Goodmorninglights · 21/12/2020 08:05

Thanks Raining. As someone that has a round journey of almost two hours, sometimes daily, to care for very elderly parents I’m very relieved to hear I can stay at home after all these months.
And as for criticising people who are worried about feeding their vulnerable family members why not try and put yourself in their shoes. This is a shit show beyond comprehension but carry on enjoying your position on your high horse, must be so lovely to feel superior.

Goodmorninglights · 21/12/2020 08:07

And lovely that you can guarantee it’s only for 48 hours, do give my regards to Macron when you next chat.

Frazzled2207 · 21/12/2020 08:13

I’m thinking about the thousands of lorry drivers queueing up in Kent, potentially for days, and wtf are they supposed to do about eating, going to the toilet etc.
It’s an economic disaster but surely a humanitarian one too.

bellinisurge · 21/12/2020 08:16

Stuff's allowed in but no lorry driver from the Continent is going to bring it. They'll get stuck trying to get out.

Pyewhacket · 21/12/2020 08:17

Container traffic is not affected and that represents the majority of freight, including medical supplies and medicines. Road haulage may affect perishable foods stuffs coming from Europe but there are other sources of supply albeit more expensive. We also ship goods and food stuffs too so you’ll have a similar situation on the other side of the channel. There has been strikes before in Calais, some lasted weeks, and threats from French fisherman regarding Brexit so a lot of planning has gone into this. I can see some produce getting more expensive and supermarkets taking steps to stop hoarding or panic buying so there is enough for everybody but it’s more a case of “keep calm and carry on” than running around in a circle waving your hands in the air shouting, “ Fucking Hell , Fucking Hell , Fucking Hell”

Splodgetastic · 21/12/2020 08:18

I’m sure the US will offer to help us out if we take their chlorinated chickens!

Requinblanc · 21/12/2020 08:21

@CoronaIsWatching ''We will just have to model our society on the post-war years and look to the 50s for inspiration. Rationing, buying British, good quality clothes made to last, back yard allotments, sensible and functional clothes and hairstyles''

Welcome to Gilead then...do you want us to start saying 'Under his eye' instead of goodbye too?

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