If freight isn't allowed in from France

[justgeton]

What does this mean for our food chain?!

I know it won’t really help but it will make me feel a teeny bit better if this makes the Christmas number one. www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR06qK4LZqDGPamJruYTEeGnto6p6YweTmN58d0OKnOUy1Xp8vh_5ssnzjA&v=gKOo8rd6T7s&feature=youtu.be

@chomalunga
They have a big market in the EU though to sell and trade with.

Presumably though someone in the EU is already selling to those markets.

Or shock, horror, perhaps some of the food and goods we export could in fact stay here and we use it!

Top 10 Food & Drink Exports
• Whisky – £5.0 billion.
• Salmon – £832.6 million.
• Chocolate – £775.7 million.
• Cheese – £707.7 million.
• Gin – £674.9 million.
• Wine – £661 million.
• Beef – £584.7 million.
• Pork – £583.1 million.

Now I admit this looks like a good Xmas list.
But dying of scurvy does look like a risk.

Bags of parsnips are 19p in Tesco.

You can't get parsnips for love or money in Italy - I would swap you a bag for some oranges if I had a way of getting them there!

Dominic Raab: "I hadn't quite understood the full extent of this but... we're particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing"

To which the only answer was "No shit, Sherlock."

The worst of that was that he didn't seem to realise that it was the sort of knowledge that a kid in year 6 could be expected to know, and wasn't in the slightest bit embarrassed about his ignorance.

Top 10 Food & Drink Exports
•Whisky – £5.0 billion.
•Salmon – £832.6 million.
•Chocolate – £775.7 million.
•Cheese – £707.7 million.
•Gin – £674.9 million.
•Wine – £661 million.
•Beef – £584.7 million.
•Pork – £583.1 million.

Those are exports. Look at the imports, a lot of those balance out due to seasonality. Beef and cheese and wine and chocolate and probably salmon we are net importers.

We can get hammered on whisky while eating lamb though doesn’t sound too bad

Plus size is that a reaction to the sensible hair cut comments? I was pretty shocked too. Sensible short back and sides.

I have no intention of 'panic buying'.

I am CEV and now advised not to leave my house.

Which is why I have, over many months, carefully got some medicine and food supplies in, an action which has been routinely mocked by the same people who wouldn't lift a finger to help me now.

I'm glad I ignored them.

@lakesidexmas
You have me a giggle. Guess we’ll have to forage on the hedge rows to ward off scurvy! I’ve been told it’s a good year fir sloes.

We will just have to model our society on the post-war years and look to the 50s for inspiration. Rationing, buying British, good quality clothes made to last, back yard allotments, sensible and functional clothes and hairstyles

A nation of Tom and Barbara Good.
All growing our own fruit and veg, while wearing dresses made out of old curtains and haircuts via a pudding bowl on the head and hair being hacked round the edges with kitchen scissors.

We're doomed....doomed i tell thee!

Goods can come in by ship. Sailors stay on board.

Nearly all our fresh food imports rely on a system based on goods being driven onto and off ships on lorries. You're not going to change that in 48 hours (or 48 months).

Thanks for your input, but you might imagine how the millions of Brits who never wanted this fucking shambolic mess of a government to be in charge of putting into action a catastrophe they didn't vote for just might not want to be living on a tiny island isolated from the rest of the world at this very moment

No, thank you for your input.

You might imagine how hundreds of millions of EU citizens feel about having their governments’ funds, times, and resources focused on Brexit in the middle of a global fucking pandemic.

Certainly plenty of voters did not support Brexit, but the majority did. That’s 100% the fault of the UK.

EU citizens did not vote for Brexit. We’ve been pulled in to it and I’d wager that the vast majority are sick to shit of the UK right now.

@lakesidexmas But that’s Scotland’s whisky! The Tories stole the oil, they’re not getting the whisky too 😀

We can get hammered on whisky while eating lamb though doesn’t sound too bad

As I said it looks a good Xmas list but the idea we can just consume our own exports instead of imports is daft.

Scurvy is still a risk, although on a diet that heavy on alcohol perhaps we won't live long enough to notice!

(idly wonders if all the people who have seemingly never given a thought to where our food comes from and how it gets here previously are the same ones who voted for Brexit )

@EnPoinsettia as a fellow Scot I'm going to suggest it is also our Salmon?

@VodselForDinner

Thanks for your input, but you might imagine how the millions of Brits who never wanted this fucking shambolic mess of a government to be in charge of putting into action a catastrophe they didn't vote for just might not want to be living on a tiny island isolated from the rest of the world at this very moment

No, thank you for your input.

You might imagine how hundreds of millions of EU citizens feel about having their governments’ funds, times, and resources focused on Brexit in the middle of a global fucking pandemic.

Certainly plenty of voters did not support Brexit, but the majority did. That’s 100% the fault of the UK.

EU citizens did not vote for Brexit. We’ve been pulled in to it and I’d wager that the vast majority are sick to shit of the UK right now.

Cool - so maybe give this UK based site a miss for the moment then if you're so sick of us all 👍

^You might imagine how hundreds of millions of EU citizens feel about having their governments’ funds, times, and resources focused on Brexit in the middle of a global fucking pandemic.

Certainly plenty of voters did not support Brexit, but the majority did. That’s 100% the fault of the UK.^

You could argue that the failure to reform the EU was a major issue......

And the bending of the rules by many countries.

I do not want Brexit and wish we remained in the EU. Doesn't mean I couldn't see the faults too.

I just figured the trade and free movement was worth all the other shit that went with it.

When families are worried about buying food tonight, I really don't give a fuck if you are pissed off

I never voted for this or our govt. But I do want to feed my family.

So annoyed I put off getting xmas veg in today.
Hopefully supermarkets will limit purchases of fresh food, it won't affect stocks in for today & tomorrow and supermarkets had been stocking up.
Boris needs a bloody quick plan, I'm not feeling confident in him, I'd imagine there'll be civil servants working on options now (fingers crossed).
Feel so sorry for European HGV drivers stuck in the UK.
There's no way the new strain Covid hasn't already found it's way out of London and SE, I'd imagine we're heading for lockdown across the country pretty soon. Hancock sounded panicked this morning, he looked terrible. Which isn't great is it.

But at least vaccine is rolling, by end January we should be starting to get into a much better position.

Wish I lived in New Zealand.

I've just checked, we have a tesco opening soon, I don't have our food shop this week.
I was also going to do it later in the week, but we have most of our Xmas diner already.

It's more the avoiding covid why I'm tempted + the fact the store will be aired from no Sunday shoppers up till late.

Scurvy is still a risk, although on a diet that heavy on alcohol perhaps we won't live long enough to notice!

Got to laugh because it’s quite possibly true...

To be fair though most of the soft fruits and veg aren’t coming out of Europe at the moment and the rest aren’t closed so wouldn’t panic.

@DrizzleandDamp

* Didn't you realise the the U.K. was leaving the EU? I expect many farmers did realise that this would happen. Farmers may have realised that Brexit would happen, they may have planned ahead. There will be fresh vegetables, possibly not the exotic veg that you are used to. The vegetables that are flown in from countries way South of the EU*

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA no comment. Companies have, but they are handcuffed by the total lack of even basic paperwork available from the government with weeks to go! Google any food based trade bodies open letter to the government and weep.

Bold fail there. Lack of paperwork doesn't mean that vegetables cannot be grown. Obviously you have no fucking clue about how a business works. For a no comment, you really said a lot of bollocks

@lakesidexmas Yes! And also our lamb!

And now we’re onto the Highland Clearances.

We also grow most of Ireland’s seed potatoes, so I shudder to think of that particular echo of history.

@crackofdoom would explain a lot! Wonder if BoJo understands it?

Bold fail there. Lack of paperwork doesn't mean that vegetables cannot be grown. Obviously you have no fucking clue about how a business works.
For a no comment, you really said a lot of bollocks

I work in food chains for a commercial organisation. Lack of paperwork means we simply can’t export and import without country of origin labelling, health certificates, border controls and many many other things.

We can’t grow anything many things without seeds, fertilisers, chemicals, pots and poly tunnels, and equipment. Mostly all imported.

But keep on believing.