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Quick poll: who intends to continue with Xmas plans in tier 4?

480 replies

Missmidden · 19/12/2020 17:46

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

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Chocoqueen · 19/12/2020 19:11

We were going to my PIL to see them and BIL (who lives with them so 2 households, all adults, all tier 4) but we're cancelling - we're all sticking to the rules so no discussion was needed. We had planned socially distanced/outside visits with my grandparents (all 1 hour away, in Tier 2) on one of the following days but I'm not sure I'll take that risk now.

Cyclebunny · 19/12/2020 19:12

We are in London and continuing with our plans: staying in as much as possible and keeping religiously to our bubble of three (DH, DD and me). I’ve not seen my family in France for a year but we all accept this is the best thing for everyone.

Please be kind to yourself and others and stick to the rules.

Again very sorry for Sparkles.

hungarianhybrid · 19/12/2020 19:12

Just go for it! I’m in tier 4 and still going ahead - it’s not like the police are going to be knocking on peoples doors to see if you have guests 😂

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 19:12

@starrynight19

Are people really considering not following the rules , especially in tier 4. Let’s hope you don’t need the nhs any time soon then. *@Vinosaurus* I really have no words Sad
My mother had a blackout and fall in August.

The paramedics were very worried and said openly that without a hospital admission, she was unlikely to get care.

She refused the hospital admission fir a number of reasons. But the paramedics were right in a way, she’s still waiting to see a cardiologist.

The NHS packed up and left ages ago. My father was proud to work there for 45 years,but he’d weep if he were here to see what its become.

Longpinknails · 19/12/2020 19:12

Nothing has changed for us, there’s three of us at home now moving into Tier 4 and we were always going to stay at home For Xmas and not see anyone. I hope others do the same.

JacobReesMogadishu · 19/12/2020 19:12

Though if she is a single household I think maybe that’s ok?

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 19:13

@hungarianhybrid

Just go for it! I’m in tier 4 and still going ahead - it’s not like the police are going to be knocking on peoples doors to see if you have guests 😂
I don’t think that’s an issue

But they may well be asking questions on public transport on Xmas eve.

Baileyscoffeeandcampfires · 19/12/2020 19:13

Cancelled plans . We were 3 households having Xmas day at one . All love within 10 miles of each other but on the Surrey / Hants/ berks border so once house in tier 2 and the others have gone to 4

Gutted and now trying to amend Tesco order as we were al doing different parts of Xmas dinner .
Keeping the secret Santa and crackers for when we can finally meet. Xmas in July ?

Londontown12 · 19/12/2020 19:13

Stay home and saves lives it’s quiet simple really !
We had already decided to have a quiet Xmas with just our household it’s not worth the risk it’s one Xmas out of many and the quicker we all stick to the rules the quicker life gets back to normal it’s not just about ourselves it’s elderly and NHS and those poor dr and nurses it must be awful wondering how their going to cope x

LazyName · 19/12/2020 19:13

Cancelled. We are tier 4 anyway but the new strain appears to be much more infectious and it feels more serious now than it had been before. Perhaps because there are such a high number of people I know personally who now have it and are very unwell, as opposed to only a few people over the last 9 months who were only mildly ill. Xmas Sad

Belepheron · 19/12/2020 19:13

@zzzaaaqqq

I’m cancelled my plans. Spent all of lockdown at uni by myself, moved to south east for my grad job and now can’t go back home to the North. Live in a house share with random people I don’t know and haven’t seen anyone for months. Now spending all of Christmas and New Year alone, I’m only 21 so it’s a bit tough!
I'm so sorry to read this. In my view, younger adults are bearing a disproportionate amount of the loss. Is be devastated if this was my DD. I hope you are able to have some pleasures in the festive period, no matter how small. This will pass. It's not your whole life. I admire your attitude.
SunshineCake · 19/12/2020 19:13

We were all staying at home. The only change is dd now can't see her bc and ds can't see his gf. Sad. We will not break the rules. They are there to save our lifes ffs.

littlemisslozza · 19/12/2020 19:13

If only resources would stretch to police cars on the edges of tier 4 areas then the people who think they can still do whatever they like might take it more seriously! I despair of people umming and aahing and saying it's not clear. Guidelines have been perfectly clear since March if you take a moment to look them up for your area so I have never understood the confusion! Some people just want to pretend they're ignorant of them or special in some way. So sorry for people who have had plans change. If you live with people then hopefully you can still have a nice day, and for anyone alone I hope you can zoom/phone any loved ones and let's get out of this mess asap.

Skyla2005 · 19/12/2020 19:14

Dont break the rules they are there for good reason

Bathroom12345 · 19/12/2020 19:15

People who are packing suitcases now and smugly saying they are within the law. Shame on you. The virus is the evil part of this, it doesn’t care that you arrived at 2355.

I have just had to cancel DM who lives in London from coming to stay with us. Late 80’s, on her own, wondering whether the churches will be open. Of course I could pick her up and let her stay with us but I would never forgive myself if either she or the family spread the virus. I have to say Boris is right. It’s not safe and there is no way I am risking everyone’s safety because of my own personal needs and wants.

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 19:15

@SunshineCake

We were all staying at home. The only change is dd now can't see her bc and ds can't see his gf. Sad. We will not break the rules. They are there to save our lifes ffs.
Want to buy a timeshare?
pjmask · 19/12/2020 19:16

So bloody sick of people banging on about Aus and NZ, it's not comparable for reasons you are obviously too thick and unimaginative to understand

Look at our neighbours in Europe
today and how their celebrations are being impacted for a (marginally) more reasonable comparison

ThelmaNotLouise · 19/12/2020 19:16

@Napqueen1234

I know it’s hard but people really need to follow the rules. I feel for London and the SE but this is how we have felt in the NW for months and months. It’s heart wrenching not seeing family. It’s so hard to keep ploughing on especially when it feels unfair as the rules are different for others. But the tables have turned and there’s a crisis. No doubt it will spread across the rest of the country but SE and London need to take it seriously. Cancel plans, hunker down. It will end.
You've had it so tough up north and it's been horrible to watch, but being banned – it's going to be enshrined in law – from seeing family at Christmas is an altogether harsher kind of gut punch. Plus, let's not forget – because people conveniently do when they're ner-ner-ner-ner-ing at London – that we were hardest hit at the beginning, it ripped through us like wildfire, and we still have the highest death rate in the entire UK. It's hardly been a stroll in the park for us!
RaggieDolls · 19/12/2020 19:18

No, we are tier two but the relatives we were going to see are tier four. We've cancelled.

UnwantedOpinionBelow · 19/12/2020 19:18

@NewLockdownNewMe

If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

If you’re going to break the rules (or law, I’m not sure whether this will be law), then own it. Don’t hide behind what “everyone else is doing”.

Fully agree, own your actions.
FatGirlShrinking · 19/12/2020 19:19

The complete hypocrisy and lack of logical thinking that has people saying things like

"This is all the governments fault, if they'd put in harsher lockdowns this would all be over by now, they've been promising it would be over by now. Well we're not following the rules, they can't stop me seeing my family"

It's just ridiculous, you can't blame anyone except those who are breaking the rules for this mess and the continued spikes and increased transmission.

Stay the fuck away from other households, stick to your own small family group, reduce transmission points. Wear a mask and stay distanced from people when in supermarkets or other shops and keep your hands clean. It's not hard!

GabsAlot · 19/12/2020 19:19

was meant to be going to my sisters in tier 2 cancelled that-will do a simple dinner here with dh

moita · 19/12/2020 19:20

No we have cancelled. My mum would have to see my 93 year old Grandad if he had a fall etc (he has a wife but she doesn't drive) so the risk of us passing something on is too great.

Our neighbour's have just tested positive for Covid. Too much risk.

BeyondThunderdome · 19/12/2020 19:20

I imagine we'll -almost- do what we have planned (South Wales), as we're all in an amalgamated bubble anyway (childcare bubble and disability care bubble). The only change is what would be our second household aren't coming now from T2 in England

YouokHun · 19/12/2020 19:20

My Dad is dying. This will be his last Christmas. We live in the same village and we are in Tier 4. I can’t put off this Christmas so that I can spend time with him next Christmas because there is no next Christmas. I can’t leave my mother and him alone and contemplating this.

What would you do?