Page 7 | Tier 4 - can I form a support bubble and go stay with my parents?

yellowtail1 · 2020-12-19T16:49:19+00:00

I live in London with my DH and our 10 week old baby. Can we go and stay with my parents (who live in a tier 2 area) over Christmas by forming a support bubble and if so, how long could we stay with them for? Sorry if this is a stupid question - my head is all over the place and I’m just so confused. Can anyone help?

Tavannach · 19/12/2020 19:28

They’re showing Boris on tv again. He actually says that support bubbles are still there for people at particular risk of loneliness or isolation.

Absolutely no point in listening to Johnson. He is fucking useless.
I don't think you can form a support bubble just to see your parents at Christmas, and I'm fairly sure you can't travel out of tier 4 to a lower tier area. Why would you want to? There's a real risk you'd be spreading the virus.

OllietheOwl · 19/12/2020 19:28

Some people on here seriously need to re-read the guidance re: support bubbles before posting “definite” facts.

Potentialscrooge · 19/12/2020 19:30

Oh I’m sick of this. My support bubble is my sister who lives a 2 hour drive away. She comes at least every 2 weeks to help me (baby under one) and I could not have managed without her abs BIL.
She will still come into our now tier 4 area for Christmas. We have cancelled any other plans (Parents visiting etc) We will stay inside, maybe a few walks but that’s it.
My mum is now rushing down the M40 to deliver all the Xmas gifts food etc before midnight.
We have stuck to every single rule and I’m so over it.
Make a bubble, stick with it and enjoy the very little joy you can to end the year.

Yorkshirepudding1987 · 19/12/2020 19:31

@QueenoftheAir

That is incorrect. Since early December families with a baby under rhe age of 1 can form a support bubble with another household of any size. You do not need to be a single parent.

Go OP. Our baby is 13 weeks old and its been tough.

People saying why didn't you need a support bubble yesterday, maybe she did. Maybe her parents were already going to be the bubble but they hadn't managed to see them yet and were waiting for this week.

My parents are our bubble as we have a 23 week old. That doesn't mean I see them every day, I see them once or twice a week.

Yorkshirepudding1987 · 19/12/2020 19:32

*13 week

Mummaest2006 · 19/12/2020 19:34

@MrsTerryPratchett

It’s going to spread anyway !

I cut myself chopping fruit this morning. May as well chop my arm off.

The OP is exempt so that's fine but this attitude is fucking stupid.

Yes she’s exempt because she has just had a baby! Therefore needs to support yet people are jumping on her for travelling because apparently she isn’t entitled to support!

xxmassy · 19/12/2020 19:35

The Christmas rules seem to suggest 'existing' support bubbles remain - because the support should have been needed all along, not just for Xmas. I don't mean that in a nasty way, just that if people need support, don't be afraid to ask for it but equally don't use it as a reason to meet up for Xmas.

Indoctro · 19/12/2020 19:36

Yes you cannot you need to ask yourself do you really need to, you are risking your parents health and babies health but travelling around the country , going to others houses etc

The safest place for you and your family is to stay in your home as much as you can.

illdoitlater · 19/12/2020 19:37

@xxmassy

The Christmas rules seem to suggest 'existing' support bubbles remain - because the support should have been needed all along, not just for Xmas. I don't mean that in a nasty way, just that if people need support, don't be afraid to ask for it but equally don't use it as a reason to meet up for Xmas.

Exactly!

CherryPieface · 19/12/2020 19:38

If you needed a support bubble surely you would have formed it by now?

Indoctro · 19/12/2020 19:38

That should say

Yes you can
But you need to

ouchiezz · 19/12/2020 19:39

Fucking joke. All these threads about people who won't let their parents hold their baby and then seconds after London gets made into tier 4 it's an immediate'we need a support bubble even though our family are 3 hours away..'

Clearly doing it for a nice Christmas. So enjoy it

Hardbackwriter · 19/12/2020 19:40

@CherryPieface

If you needed a support bubble surely you would have formed it by now?

I don't know why people keep saying this - OP's baby is 10 weeks old, the extension of support bubbles to parents of under-ones only happened a few weeks ago, I don't know what arbitrary deadline she was supposed to meet to satisfy people that she 'needs support' but it wasn't specified in advance...

SufferingFromLongLockdown · 19/12/2020 19:42

@ouchiezz

Fucking joke. All these threads about people who won't let their parents hold their baby and then seconds after London gets made into tier 4 it's an immediate'we need a support bubble even though our family are 3 hours away..'

Clearly doing it for a nice Christmas. So enjoy it

Do you think it's all the same people? I would put money on it the op hasn't posted before about not letting her parents hold her baby.

ouchiezz · 19/12/2020 19:44

@SufferingFromLongLockdown no I generalising

ouchiezz · 19/12/2020 19:44

Was*

ohwhatamiserableyear · 19/12/2020 19:46

It won't be a support bubble, will it though. Because they're not local to you.

Stay home.

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 19:50

@yellowtail1

I read this on the government’s website, which is why I’m confused - surely the last point applies to me?

You can form a support bubble with another household of any size if:

you live by yourself – even if carers visit you to provide support
you are the only adult in your household who does not need continuous care as a result of a disability
your household includes a child who is under the age of one or was under that age on 2 December 2020

I think the child age qualifies you, yes.

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 19:50

@CherryPieface

If you needed a support bubble surely you would have formed it by now?

You don’t actually fill in legal papers for this.

Yaty · 19/12/2020 19:53

@rainbowunicorn

No you can't. You have a DH so you do not qualify to form a support bubble as none of you are single adults. Presumably you are not a carer for your parents as if you were you would have already been doing this.

This isn't correct, you can have a support bubble with another household if you have a baby under 1 years old. It changed on 2nd December

ivfbeenbusy · 19/12/2020 19:53

@BeneficiaryMadness

No you can’t I’m afraid. Support bubbles are for single parents and you aren’t supposed travel out of tier 4?

Actually that's not true. Childcare bubbles include households where both parents work and grandparents provide informal childcare to enable said parents to continue working.....

cupcakesandglitter · 19/12/2020 19:53

@ouchiezz

Fucking joke. All these threads about people who won't let their parents hold their baby and then seconds after London gets made into tier 4 it's an immediate'we need a support bubble even though our family are 3 hours away..'

Clearly doing it for a nice Christmas. So enjoy it

Are you serious?!

COVID or no COVID, a ten week pp mum needs help - if she needs that extra support then by all means why shouldn't she?! BECAUSE SHE HAS A HUSBAND?!

@yellowtail1 I'd honestly form that support bubble and do what you need to do for your own mental health, I hope you're well ❤️

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 19:54

@ohwhatamiserableyear

It won't be a support bubble, will it though. Because they're not local to you.

Stay home.

There is nothing in the law to say “local”. And how do you define “local”?

SufferingFromLongLockdown · 19/12/2020 19:55

[quote ouchiezz]@SufferingFromLongLockdown no I generalising [/quote]
And how does this help the op?

ouchiezz · 19/12/2020 19:55

@cupcakesandglitter yeah go ahead and get your support for the magical days over Christmas then go back home and spread covid around so we're never out of this cycle.

I want to know how often these bubbles will be used after Christmas..