Page 13 | Tier 4 - can I form a support bubble and go stay with my parents?

yellowtail1 · 2020-12-19T16:49:19+00:00

I live in London with my DH and our 10 week old baby. Can we go and stay with my parents (who live in a tier 2 area) over Christmas by forming a support bubble and if so, how long could we stay with them for? Sorry if this is a stupid question - my head is all over the place and I’m just so confused. Can anyone help?

superstripeysocks · 20/12/2020 19:06

@Blacksheepcat

The support bubble is for single people and the childcare rules are for single parents. OP lives with her husband and child... they are a family and not in need of a support bubble. Also, would you really want to risk giving your parents Covid? If you’re in London where it is spreading like wildfire, you should not travel to a tier 2 zone and spread it. It’s sad but there are people spending Christmas completely alone. You’ve got your DH and baby. Enjoy your first Christmas together x

Christ alive. READ THE GUIDANCE ffs

superstripeysocks · 20/12/2020 19:07

@munchkinman

You shouldn’t travel to a lower tier. Feel for you but those are the rules xx

NOPE. I correct

MassiveSalad · 20/12/2020 19:08

People spreading misinformation should honestly have their posts deleted.

superstripeysocks · 20/12/2020 19:08

*incorrect

TimeForLunch · 20/12/2020 19:14

Go to your parents. I'm sure you will all benefit. The rules allow you to and you are much more likely to NOT have covid than have it!!

TicTacTwo · 20/12/2020 19:14

@Crakeandoryx

People were asked to not leave tier 4 by both Boris and Whitty. Their reasoning was sound, do not spread the new variant any further. If the whole country get it we're all stuffed. Economically the country needs to not get in any more debt. We don't want more people getting it now. Deaths will go up, just don't. Dig deep and know we're near the end now, we're literally looking at 12 more weeks before vaccine roll out gets to the point of lockdown easing!

There are exceptions to this. You are allowed to go to work if you can't wfh, have certain bubbles, flee domestic violence, children of divorced parents travelling to the other parent etc

BERNICE63 · 20/12/2020 19:20

NO..you cannot leave a Tier 4 area now...

PurpleDaisies · 20/12/2020 19:21

@BERNICE63

NO..you cannot leave a Tier 4 area now...

Read thd bloody guidance. You can in certain circumstances.

As has been shown over and over on this thread.

Grenlei · 20/12/2020 19:24

The worst thing about all the idiots who keep spouting all this misinformation is that not one of them ever comes back and says sorry, thanks for clarifying or whatever.

I agree that posts stating incorrect information should be deleted...or marked as false info like they do on FB

nannykatherine · 20/12/2020 19:27

But would the support bubble have to be within tier 4 ???

PurpleDaisies · 20/12/2020 19:29

@nannykatherine

But would the support bubble have to be within tier 4 ???

Nowhere does it say that.

In the information about support bubbles, it says they’re best kept local but that’s it.

SallyB392 · 20/12/2020 19:35

You can not visit your family. You are a bubble in yourselves.

Bodynegative · 20/12/2020 19:36

You're not in a support bubble with your parents and would be simply forming one to excuse your rule breaking; if you really need their support you would have already done it. I know that sounds harsh but it's harsh for all of us. It is your responsibility to decide what you should or shouldn't do, but you need to take ownership of your decision, whichever it happens to be. By travelling to see your family you will be putting others at risk as you may be infectious and not know it. Break the rules if you want but be honest about it instead of looking for a loophole to exploit. Merry Christmas, whatever you decide

CoffeeCheeseandCupcakes · 20/12/2020 19:37

The guidance has been clarified on here by multiple people that the OP is completely within the guidelines to go to her parents, as part of a support bubble.

So will people PLEASE STOP commenting misinformation

BamboozledandBefuddled · 20/12/2020 19:39

@Bodynegative

You're not in a support bubble with your parents and would be simply forming one to excuse your rule breaking; if you really need their support you would have already done it. I know that sounds harsh but it's harsh for all of us. It is your responsibility to decide what you should or shouldn't do, but you need to take ownership of your decision, whichever it happens to be. By travelling to see your family you will be putting others at risk as you may be infectious and not know it. Break the rules if you want but be honest about it instead of looking for a loophole to exploit. Merry Christmas, whatever you decide

You can form a support bubble any time you like. Stop making up rules because you think they should say something else.

CoffeeCheeseandCupcakes · 20/12/2020 19:40

@Bodynegative Expect it's not breaking the rules. Not even bending them.

Jaffacake007 · 20/12/2020 19:42

Go for it - I’ve given birth myself during the first lockdown and it has been awful due to a variety of factors, but mostly the lack of support. Forming a support bubble with my mum massively improved my mental health as I was suffering from PND.

Don’t listen to people on their high horses here, I’m sure most of the commenters would jump at the chance to see their family given the chance. I’m sure most of them went to the pub/restaurants/cafes when they were allowed to. You are allowed and you have every right to form your bubble, whether its at the end of December or not.

Having a baby during this pandemic has been incredibly difficult and I wish you all the best

upsidedownroundabout · 20/12/2020 19:54

You CAN form a support bubble, and should as far as I'm concerned. Good luck.

whereisthejoy · 20/12/2020 19:58

This post shows how unclear the rules are...

Somersetlevel · 20/12/2020 20:00

Yes you can -you have a child under 1.

PurpleDaisies · 20/12/2020 20:01

@whereisthejoy

This post shows how unclear the rules are...

It’s mainly shown me people love to tell posters they’re doing things wrong without looking at the guidance to see what it actually says.

CoffeeCheeseandCupcakes · 20/12/2020 20:04

@whereisthejoy

This post shows how unclear the rules are...

I'm really not one to be defending the gov't here...but I think it's actually pretty clear about support bubbles. This thread has just shown how much people like to tell others what to do, based on zero information.

Tier 4 - can I form a support bubble and go stay with my parents?

catpoooffender · 20/12/2020 20:10

@PurpleDaisies indeed. And people putting their own ethical spin on how the rules should be interpreted which makes it incredibly subjective.

FoodologistGirl · 20/12/2020 20:39

This government doesn’t know it’s arse from its elbow. If you want to see your parents strict isolate for a week first or get a test to check you’re covid clear then travel straight there. In first lockdown we had to look after MIL with dementia with SIL, so isolated for a week then stayed with her 2 weeks and had a free week before isolating again. No tests back in March so no choice.

CiggyStardust · 20/12/2020 20:56

Yes, you can have support bubble an hour away, but that's not going to offer much support, is it?

My parents are my support bubble and live an hour away. I'm a single parent and without being able to send my son to stay there/ have my mum work from "home" at my house I'd have had to stop working.

I have people who live closer but they have their own commitments and its a big ask relying on another household so heavily for such a long time, not something I'd ask of anyone other than close family.

OP, if your parents are a support bubble for you, you can spend as much time as you like with them - they are considered part of ypur household and you theirs.