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Both kids isolating over christmas, this was the family's response. Im lost for words WWYS?

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LTAS · 18/12/2020 19:17

We got told today that both my 6 year old daughter and 4year old sons school classes ha e had 2 teachers test positive they now both have to isolate for 10 days. Fair enough I tottaly and full understand this and effectively I'm isolating now also being the parent whilst husband can still work.

So off I start ringing the 2 family members who we was going to see over the Christmas bubble dates. The 1st family fully accepted it no issue at all and dint kick up a fuss as they both have health risks. 2nd family who is my parents really wasn't happy and the response was well were see what happens so to me that sounds like there going to totally ignore my request of don't come round. I was shocked I didn't even know what to say .I never like to upset my parents but we really don't feel comfortable with them being at our home. (They was only coming for an hour or so and would have been sat by our back doors with masks on)however more so now we wouldn't want this to happen

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middleager · 19/12/2020 00:03

Isolation means just that.

My son was on his sixth isolation from school. He'd already had Covid a few weeks before too, so no risk of catching it so soon either.

Yet even when our boiler went we didn't risk anyone coming in due to isolation and sucked it up without hot water or heating until isolation was over.

Why do different rules apply to others just cause it's Christmas?

middleager · 19/12/2020 00:05

Oh and this was in freezing December too!

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 19/12/2020 00:10

Meet up for a walk outside somewhere after isolation ends? Somewhere with a playground and takeaway hot chocolate. As long as there is 6 of you or fewer that’s allowed.

ItsIgginningtolookalotlikeXmas · 19/12/2020 00:14

Middleager it was only your son who needed to isolate though, not the whole house

Donotgogentle · 19/12/2020 00:20

This thread is like seeing natural selection in action.

MrsEricBana · 19/12/2020 00:24

This thread is like seeing natural selection in action.

Agree.

caringcarer · 19/12/2020 00:27

Meet in the garden. They can wear masks. If they don't come in your house or ho within 2 metres of your kids it will be fine. Today I drove 150 miles to see my dgc. We met outside in a public garden and walked around. Kids had their bikes. Had a takeaway coffee and a portion of hot child to share. It rained the whole time but we did not care. I wanted to drop of their as presents. I will watch them open them on a Teams call Xmas morning. DH is ECV so had to o stay home.

ktp100 · 19/12/2020 00:51

The amount of people encouraging you to allow them over if your kids don't start with symptoms shows exactly why this thing will drag out much longer than it needs to.

Millions of people just will not do what they're told!!!!

ktp100 · 19/12/2020 00:52

This thread is like seeing natural selection in action

So depressingly true, only the sad thing is the numptys take others down with them.

HeddaGarbled · 19/12/2020 01:03

This thread is like seeing natural selection in action

Or mass hysteria from people who don’t pay attention to science.

Twiggywinkle13 · 19/12/2020 01:14

Your husband is still going to work - is that not more of a risk of spreading coronavirus than your parents being outside your door for an hour?

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LTAS · 19/12/2020 01:40

Right we need to clear something up here guys . ..... the parents weren't going to sit in the garden im not sure who has said that and it's followed. The plan was they was coming over Sunday 27th staying for an hour or so and would be sat by the back doors with masks on . I repeat Have not said they were originally meeting in the garden. And if they did meet in the garden like someone suggested they wouldn't stay out there i know what there like 1st it'll be there cold. Then there want to use the toilet. Then they would wnat to see glow our kitchen diy plans were going and then they would want a drink. Trust me I know.

Anyway daughter has just woken complaining she hot (is she because sleepping or am i going to constantly be watching for signs)so who knows we may completely be isolating all 4 of us now anyway. And I totally do not agree the whole husband going to work post. Seriously!!!

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Turtleshelly · 19/12/2020 01:44

I understand your position. One third of cases are asymptomatic and more so in young children. It spreads asymptomatically. Those saying it’s ok to break rules if kids have no symptoms contribute to the fact we are where we are with harsher measures and businesses in trouble.

Turtleshelly · 19/12/2020 01:46

Just spotted your last post so wanted to add... I hope your daughter is ok.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 19/12/2020 01:53

If your parents really insist on coming over they should be prepared to self isolate themselves for 10 days afterwards so start planning for that now (cancel other family meetings, set up internet shopping etc). It’s all very well if they are prepared to take a risk with their own health but it’s unfair that they then spread the risk to others.
Alternatively they could wait a few days.

inquietant · 19/12/2020 04:50

I hope you're all ok. You can get a test just for feeling hot - doesn't have to be a confirmed temperature - so you can probably test your daughter. NHS pages www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/symptoms/ say this: a high temperature – this means you feel hot to touch on your chest or back (you do not need to measure your temperature) Sorry you have this going on at Christmas. Stick to your guns with your parents.

3littlewords · 19/12/2020 05:36

I haven't RTFT so apologies if it's been asked but do your parents understand the guidelines around close contacts isolating?
I don't mean to sound patronising here just speaking from my own experiences. My MIL babysat my DN when she was isolating due to a positive case in her class. They aren't in a bubble together and FIL is ECV, I went mad but was told " its ok as DN wasn't showing symptoms " Xmas Shock

christmasathomeagain · 19/12/2020 06:22

We are in same position op with dd now needing to isolate till Christmas day. We didn't have plans to cancel though as we didn't feel it safe to mix anyway. However, mil messaged today asking why we didn't just get her a test proving to us once again she doesn't get it and doesn't follow the rules and this is why we chose not to meet up with them even though technically we could have at the time.

Pepperama · 19/12/2020 06:53

As others have said, you become infectious two days before symptoms, kids in particular can show no symptoms but still spread.

I’m really shocked so many people don’t know this and would still allow parents to come. How would they feel if their parents died or got long form Covid because they weren’t careful enough.

Positivevibesonlyplease · 19/12/2020 07:31

@Donotgogentle

This thread is like seeing natural selection in action.
Unfortunately, it is.
ceeveebee · 19/12/2020 07:36

So, having just told my reasonably intelligent friends that we need to cancel our Christmas plans because DS has to self isolate - response was “can’t you just get him tested”
Ffs. No wonder we are in this mess

GreatBigBeautifulTommorow · 19/12/2020 10:01

@LTAS from a NHS worker....Thankyou for following the rules Flowers

middleager · 19/12/2020 10:05

@ItsIgginningtolookalotlikeXmas

Middleager it was only your son who needed to isolate though, not the whole house
I know, but it would have involved a workman coming into the house and this isn't allowed when somebody in the house is SI.
ItsIgginningtolookalotlikeXmas · 19/12/2020 10:37

Oh I see. If it wasn't against rules I would have put dc in his room overnight and cleaned the hell out of anything the workman might need to walk past. There must be an exception for emergencies (house on fire?) just depends what counts as one. At least after Christmas your ds won't have to isolate anymore he'll just be tested in school. (Which brings its own problems as that won't be anywhere near as safe.)

TodgerStrunk · 19/12/2020 11:07

This is the exact text from the NHS email I got this week after DD had a test-

"Your coronavirus test result is negative. You did not have the virus when the test was done.
You only need to self-isolate if:

  • you get symptoms of coronavirus (you'll need a new test)
  • you're going into hospital (self-isolate until the date you go in)
  • someone you live with tests positive
  • you've been traced as a contact of someone who tested positive

For advice on how long to self-isolate, go to www.nhs.uk/coronavirus and read 'Self-isolation and treating symptoms'.

Otherwise, you may return to work if you've not had a high temperature for 48 hours and feel well."

I can understand why people are confused if one message from the government says you can test negative and then roam free, and another message says you should self isolate for 10 days regardless of test result. Which is it?