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Has anyone else lost the will to care?

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whatToDoHerre · 17/12/2020 21:46

I have. I barely care about anything anymore. I don't know what we are fighting for - if this is life then is it worth living? We are not living, we are only existing at this point.

We could be in for months and months of restrictions and there's even talk of a third lockdown. Because the first two worked so well?

In a few short months a whole year of our lives will have been restricted.

If there is light at the end of this tunnel it's a very long tunnel, and I don't think we've travelled very far.

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Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 11:41

Yeah, I was listening-"2 weeks to flatten the curve/stop the spread".

When did the Govt and science say this? I dont recall anyone saying it

That went well didnt it?Here we all are 10 months later

The daily briefings back in March and April told us that it would take "at least 18 months or longer".

The lockdowns worked because health services were not overwhelmed. Italy did have some of their hospitals overwhelmed for a few days, when people were dying on the floors, without any medical attention. Or in cars outside in traffic jams, but that was a few weeks ago and as far as I know they have managed to recover from that now

CarlottaValdez · 18/12/2020 11:42

Yes and there was a poster who kept telling people that if their children had asthma they wouldn’t revenge medical care and would just be left to die at home.

CarlottaValdez · 18/12/2020 11:42

Receive not revenge!

MadameBlobby · 18/12/2020 11:45

The daily briefings back in March and April told us that it would take "at least 18 months or longer".

What they said was that some sort of social distancing may need to be in place for at least a year. Not that the entire fucking country would grind to a halt!

Cornettoninja · 18/12/2020 11:45

@MadameBlobby

I meant about the “people dying without going to hospital” stuff .

We heard this all before . Ice rinks being used as temporary morgues, bodies piled up in the streets etc. Didn’t happen then, why would it happen now.

Why wouldn’t it happen? We have a finite amount of resources available for body disposal and it’s not designed for large numbers of corpses in a short amount of time.

This has actually happened in other areas during the pandemic, New York had to use mass graves on hart Island for families to reclaim and cremate or bury at a later date in April.

It’s not fantasy, this has actually happened.

YukoandHiro · 18/12/2020 11:48

I've started to not give a fuck more widely, but I'm still scared I'll lose my husband (asthma and high BP) to it - we have a 3yo and a 9 week old.

Also scared (for no particular reason) the I'll get it and die and leave my small children motherless.

Aside from that, I'm fatigued. Don't care about work/the economy/brexit/anything anymore. And I'm normally very politically engaged.

Schonerlebnis · 18/12/2020 11:48

People were left in extremis in the first wave. Left to cope because their lips weren't blue or they could just about talk in full sentences. There's a good radio 4 programme about long covid, one of the participants collapsed on the floor, managed to ring 999 but told she wasn't ill enough. She had to get a friend to phone her every hour to check up on her.
Services were massively stretched, we were close to running out of sedations, even oxygen at one point, we had one nurse to 3 icu patients, were even using non icu trained staff, whole wards shut down to redeploy staff to us. Nobody's saying ice rinks will be used as morturies, it's the more mundane stuff like running out of equipment, meds etc.

Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 11:48

What they said was that some sort of social distancing may need to be in place for at least a year. Not that the entire fucking country would grind to a halt

They said "at least 18 months". The country has not ground to a halt. People cannot go to a pub or restaurant

What do you think is the answer, apart form lockdowns?

wasthataburp · 18/12/2020 11:48

I lost the will to care a long time ago. I don't care nor do most of the people I know. Everyone sees each other in houses etc. It does not make any difference what so ever. Live your life!

MadameBlobby · 18/12/2020 11:49

But we are not talking about New York which didn’t control it well. We are talking about here.

In any event, as per the thread title, I have lost the will to care. All I can do is what I am doing which is do what I’m told, even though I hate it and find it pointless. The rest of it is not my problem.

randomsabreuse · 18/12/2020 11:49

I think a lot of us are looking at the government's handling of the crisis as the major reason everything is so shit...

Ongoing underfunding of the NHS (didn't vote Tory)
Cronies getting lucrative contracts then failing to deliver (test and trace, PPE)
Eat Out to Help Out keeping cases higher than they would have been.
Brexit - concerns about actually getting all the medical supplies in in January
Scottish government restrictions being impractical - locking down by "county" is very impractical given how many County borders are historical or completely arbitrary and bear no relation to the actual "catchment" area of the shops/facilities in the area. Especially the counties surrounding Glasgow and Edinburgh where everything is geared to the big city and it's entirely arbitrary that you are one side or the other. My home county has no hospitals, some industry and 1 retail park. All the others that in the real world would be built to serve the county are just the wrong side of the border. Once compliance becomes impractical/impossible (to avoid "leaving" the county between the towns you'd need to take crazy back routes on narrow country lanes) people are less inclined to obey the spirit of the rules and will go further and take more risks.

MadameBlobby · 18/12/2020 11:51

@Flaxmeadow

What they said was that some sort of social distancing may need to be in place for at least a year. Not that the entire fucking country would grind to a halt

They said "at least 18 months". The country has not ground to a halt. People cannot go to a pub or restaurant

What do you think is the answer, apart form lockdowns?

Lockdowns don’t work. How on earth can England and Wales be in such a mess after only coming out of theirs?

There is no solution. It can’t be brought under control.

And there’s a lot more than pubs and restaurants closed, although very dismissive as to the crucial role these places play in keeping the economy ticking over.

wasthataburp · 18/12/2020 11:53

@UncomfortableSilence fuck that!!!! You can't leave your mum alone at Xmas!

Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 11:56

Lockdowns don’t work. How on earth can England and Wales be in such a mess after only coming out of theirs?

The lockdowns have worked. The health services have not been overwhelmed, yet

There is no solution. It can’t be brought under control.

It has been controlled. In March the deaths were climbing. We locked down on the 23rd and within a week the deaths started falling rapidly

And there’s a lot more than pubs and restaurants closed, although very dismissive as to the crucial role these places play in keeping the economy ticking over

Yes they do play a part in the economy but they also spread the virus

Do you want an end to all lockdown measures and what would would be the result of that? Do you think the infection rate would stay the same or just disappear magically

Taystee29 · 18/12/2020 11:57

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MassiveSalad · 18/12/2020 11:57

So we couldn't even have just the one thread then, clearly.

MadameBlobby · 18/12/2020 11:58

It has been controlled. In March the deaths were climbing. We locked down on the 23rd and within a week the deaths started falling rapidly

Well that wasn’t to do with the lockdown then was it, as deaths have a lag of at least 2 - 3 weeks following infections

Taystee29 · 18/12/2020 12:00

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Cornettoninja · 18/12/2020 12:00

@MadameBlobby fair enough. I don’t expect you to care but I don’t accept outright denial of truth in any capacity.

I will say that you simply can’t dismiss what has happened in other countries as not possible here. This is the same virus and is capable of the same wherever it is. We can either benefit from others experiences and learn something or we can gamble on blind policy with our fingers crossed.

Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 12:01

Well that wasn’t to do with the lockdown then was it, as deaths have a lag of at least 2 - 3 weeks following infections

The lockdown had actually started before the 23rd. Schools and nightclubs had already closed and people were expecting more measures and getting used to the idea of it

But that was March. When people actually cared about health services. Today pp don't seem to care anymore

Lostinacloud · 18/12/2020 12:02

@MassiveSalad look in the chat section. There is a long running AD (anti-dementors) thread running in there that is so far populated by like minded people x

OooErrThor · 18/12/2020 12:02

I am so over it now, I live in rural North Yorkshire - we were in the same tier as London. People can still leave or come into the country as they please, all quarantine is based on people's honesty. Schools contain bubbles of 100 pupils.

That was the turning point for me, I'm seeing a small nucleus of friends and family, bollocks to it. On a positive note I have saved a fortune by having no holidays and no going out.

Schonerlebnis · 18/12/2020 12:03

@MassiveSalad join the anti dementors one. But it's sad that you can't accept that there are other equally valid points of view and the situation isn't as simple as you think.

MadameBlobby · 18/12/2020 12:03

Do you want an end to all lockdown measures and what would would be the result of that? Do you think the infection rate would stay the same or just disappear magically

I don’t want an end to all measures at all. Some form of SD is sensible and the Christmas plans should be shelved. I even thought pt school would be acceptable for a time. But ultimately cases all go up after every lockdown so it’s just delaying them not stopping them. I think we have to accept that rates will increase and that sadly this may mean some deaths.

Ultimately though repeated lockdowns make no sense and are making no difference. The fact people have voted repeatedly for a party that has an NHS with no wiggle room at all in even a normal winter far less to deal with Covid is hardly my doing though.

MadameBlobby · 18/12/2020 12:04

But that was March. When people actually cared about health services. Today pp don't seem to care anymore

I do care about them. This is why I’ve never voted Tory.

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