Has anyone else lost the will to care?

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I have. I barely care about anything anymore. I don't know what we are fighting for - if this is life then is it worth living? We are not living, we are only existing at this point.

We could be in for months and months of restrictions and there's even talk of a third lockdown. Because the first two worked so well?

In a few short months a whole year of our lives will have been restricted.

If there is light at the end of this tunnel it's a very long tunnel, and I don't think we've travelled very far.

@LadyLazaruss
Nope

I work in a restaurant. I stopped working and was put on furlough in March, then back to work in August, then on furlough again in November, then back to work at the start of December and now we're going into tier three so not working again. I'm so far past caring any more. I've kind of just accepted that I will lose my job at some point next year (DH too as we work in the same restaurant), we have a small amount of savings and a plan for when it happens. There are a few big companies around here that are very easy to get a job at so we aren't worried about losing everything but juggling new jobs with different shifts and childcare is going to be difficult and we will be considerably worse off financially. But then we are considerably worse off financially on furlough so at least we have some practice

It's ironic that I've been amazed at recent threads where posters were discussing the time off they get at Christmas. Having always worked in hospitality, I usually work more hours over Christmas and new year rather than less and I've never had time off. Now I will be off work from now until god knows when (February? March?) so I am pleased that I get to have that special time with my DCs. Every cloud and all that 🤷‍♀️

@Redbrickwall don't worry I'm out. No point interacting.
@MassiveSalad read a room ? You mean give an alternative experience ? You're welcome to come and work with me in ICU anytime, speak to my colleagues..

[quote Schonerlebnis]@Redbrickwall don't worry I'm out. No point interacting.
@MassiveSalad read a room ? You mean give an alternative experience ? You're welcome to come and work with me in ICU anytime, speak to my colleagues..[/quote]
So manipulative 😂

And here we go - good forbid we don't agree with some of it! You know what the shit show of a government should have done was thrown the millions at the NHS and let us get on with it. Because there was is no end to this abs whilst you as an ICU nurse are telling me one thing my cousin who is a nurse is telling me the opposite and we are Manchester tier 3 where hospitals are supposedly overrun....

@Lostinacloud how true, that’s why I have uneasy feeling we aren’t going back to normal, this is it. Funny though the wealthy are still able to fly here there and everywhere.

Why on earth would you head to a fucking coronavirus forum to moan about people talking about fucking coronavirus?

What kind of demographic do you think a board titled ‘coronavirus’ attracts?

@Cornettoninja because it is fucking covid related

Same here @RockPaperScissorsLizardSpock73
DM is a Midwife in a large hospital in the South East in tier 3 and also wondering when they will be overrun .
I don’t think anybody here has any lack of understanding for the situation on an icu ward but at the same time, surely it’s always quite a difficult place to be, especially during respiratory illness season? Nobody here is trying to deny that covid doesn’t sadly cause some people to lose their lives. BUT we are questioning if the response is justified balanced against the risk to the vast majority of the population and the damage being caused to other aspects of life.

@RockPaperScissorsLizardSpock73 - denial of its existence and other peoples experiences is a tenuous link at best. You’ve basically headed to a coronavirus space to tell people they’re liars. Nice.

Whining about a thread being infiltrated by people who have direct experience with covid on a coronavirus board is a bizarre circumstance of trolls complaining about being trolled.

@RockPaperScissorsLizardSpock73 Gtr Manchester tier 3 here we have 6 covid patients at moment but considerably more last week. Not sure about the wards.

It's a virus.

It doesn't care if you are bored, fed up, lonely, That it, Christmas - None of that matters to a virus.

Because people are incapable of following science and rules, believing their need for something outside that which is sensible - is greater than someone else's right to life - we have coming up , after Christmas, an almighty shit show - the likes of which you will never of seen.

We will have people dying without even being able to get to hospital. With ambulances backed up in hospital A&E s , Insufficient medical staff to cope with the numbers dying in the corridors - of EVERY illness .

Because someone says they can't cope anymore - they feel that somehow justifies them ignoring every logical behaviour required to minimise this spread.

I am not denying people's mental health is suffering but I'm sorry - not in anything like the numbers this virus is threatening to engulf the hospitals after this lunatic '5 day break' ..

There's a vaccine. Once all the vulnerable have been vaccinated the threat to the NHS to all the others will be minimal. So normal life can resume. This requires patience and engagement. For people to understand that every person they meet presents a potential infection not just to themselves but others. Others who may not survive it.

@Cornettoninja spot on

I agree. This 'existing' is pretty miserable isn't it? I don't even feel very Christmassy even though I've had the decorations up for ages.
Boris and his buffoons don't inspire me.

Wheres all the vaccine? We should have had millions by now. We don't have the infrastructure. Our local GP Surgery hasn't even made the appointments for the second round of vaccine that supposed be given after 3 weeks. Many GP surgeries refused to take the vaccine saying they didn't even have the -70° storage facilities. What a joke.

I stupidly thought the vaccine would be churned out rapidly from November through to about April by the time we got to June we would be in a much better place.how stupid I was.

I do feel this stage, thus 'quality of life' is poor. And for that I feel angry.

@Lostinacloud again it’s a tactic to shut down any discussion, it happens time and again on this forum, I do wonder why?

Another one here pretty much given up. Am supposed to be working from home( have been since March) but still in bed as dont give a fuck anymore. Its the warmest place in the house anyway as cant afford heating on all day.
Will be crossing Covid tiers today to take teen DS to his music tutor. As a budding musician he has seen all performances, gigs,rehearsals and interactions with his friends cease this year. His mood and motivation have crashed. So fuck it, he's off to his socially distanced music lesson. I'm done with the paranoia. Offered to meet a friend in a cafe and she refused because it was too much risk. She does go to supermarkets though...where is the logic? She lives in an upstairs flat and said I could go round if I sat at the bottom of the stairs and she sat at the top!! I declined, I'm not a fucking dog.

[quote Baileysforchristmas]@Lostinacloud again it’s a tactic to shut down any discussion, it happens time and again on this forum, I do wonder why?[/quote]
It’s not a tactic, it’s a rebuttal. If you find yourself without an answer maybe you just don’t have one.

*Because people are incapable of following science and rules, believing their need for something outside that which is sensible - is greater than someone else's right to life - we have coming up , after Christmas, an almighty shit show - the likes of which you will never of seen.

We will have people dying without even being able to get to hospital. With ambulances backed up in hospital A&E s , Insufficient medical staff to cope with the numbers dying in the corridors - of EVERY illness*

YAWN

heard it all before. It’s all got a whiff of “boy who cried wolf” about it now.

I’m afraid when SAGE pulled figures out of their arses for daily deaths that haven’t even come to fruition in countries with (a) higher populations and (b) less suppression measures than here I don’t buy the “bodies piled up” rubbish any more.

@Baileysforchristmas I don't think anyone wants to shut down discussion.
And it's not that one side is wrong and the other right.
People are entirely justified being totally sick of it all and wanting to get back to normal, I long for the shifts when we didn't have to wear surgical masks let alone full ppe. I suppose people on the frontline see the worst case scenarios and it's easy to get things out of perspective. I struggled (still am) massively
with anxiety when I got covid. But equally it winds HCPs up to see posters
minimising what is going on. Just yesterday it was reported that trusts in northamptonshire, leicestershire and parts of london were diverting patients to other areas because they were overwhelmed....

heard it all before. It’s all got a whiff of “boy who cried wolf” about it now

Huh? So tens of thousands of people in this country haven’t died from covid? Millions of people haven’t caught covid? Have you read the boy who cried wolf?

This is all with restrictions so it doesn’t take much brain power to work out that without the numbers would be higher.

I started to loose the will to care, this is what’s helped...

1. Read the news less
2. Try and go to new outdoor places, found a nice nature reserve
3. Put in some makeup even if not really seeing anyway
4. Zoom my friends weekly
5. Light Christmas smelling candles in the eve
6. Give my kids easy food I know they’ll eat so I don’t get stressed when they reject it
7. Only arriving Christmas cards to the old and possibly lonely
8. Do some gentle relaxing yoga
9. Try and eat less shite and drink more water

@MadameBlobby

I’m afraid when SAGE pulled figures out of their arses for daily deaths that haven’t even come to fruition in countries with (a) higher populations and (b) less suppression measures than here I don’t buy the “bodies piled up” rubbish any more.

Good!

Although I think some people are just enjoying being hysterical.

I meant about the “people dying without going to hospital” stuff .

We heard this all before . Ice rinks being used as temporary morgues, bodies piled up in the streets etc. Didn’t happen then, why would it happen now.

Life drags on, doesn't it? I just hope people start to see sense - that it is an overreaction. Once the vulnerable are vaccinated, there is no real reason for things not to return to normal.
It's a virus as is flu. Flu can also kill or have long-lasting effects but we don't run around screaming because of that.

I live in a borough in the South East that has around 100,000 inhabitants. We are now in Tier 3.
The latest figures on the BBC website for cases between 7-13 December are 297 per 100,000 - 0.297% of its population.
Number of deaths so far, both OF Covid and WITH Covid, in the entire COUNTY are 1,523.
The county population is roughly 1,200,200 so that's a death rate of 0.12%.

I honestly don't believe that the measures we are taking are justified.

I'm more worried about Brexit!!