Has anyone else lost the will to care?

[whatToDoHerre]

I have. I barely care about anything anymore. I don't know what we are fighting for - if this is life then is it worth living? We are not living, we are only existing at this point.

We could be in for months and months of restrictions and there's even talk of a third lockdown. Because the first two worked so well?

In a few short months a whole year of our lives will have been restricted.

If there is light at the end of this tunnel it's a very long tunnel, and I don't think we've travelled very far.

The amount of times i’ve heard people saying if we are all good and do as we’re told we will be allowed to have Christmas, itwas one big fat lie, we were never going to have a family Christmas, well you can but it will be frowned open. That’s why I made the most of summer as I knew this would happen and so did the government. They are only telling us little snippets as they know people won’t stick to the rules otherwise. It’s so manipulative.

Fed up here also. Really getting me down. I feel trapped and claustrophobic with all the covid stuff. It is so limiting what we can do. Even going to a NT place is difficult. Normally I would meet a friend (not same one each time)for a coffee every couple of weeks. Some friends I havent seen for over a year now.

This is not helped by the fact I have several ongoing things I have to deal normally with such as elderly ill parents who need me to do all their admin, some care and shopping etc they often call me up to 50 times an hour. I have teen dc one with asd and has loads of issues, and I have an abusive exh that will not leave me alone (exh situation also makes me feel trapped in a rut). I also work part time and provide childcare to my siblings kids.

Sometimes I feel this will never end and I cant see any light at the end of the tunnel.

I do try and take a day at a time though. Something I learned to do doing my divorce which also took what felt like forever and was actually about two years.

The blaming people narrative really grinds my fucking gears.

Yeah I hate the 'you are allowed see your family at Christmas, but you really shouldn't' narrative from the government. Its just a way of being able to blame the public.

Not RTFT but there is a feeling the joy has been sucked from life. My motivation is very low at the moment.

But- we have several vaccines on the way, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Yes the whole thing has been mismanaged and the fallout will be felt for many years to come. I hope we can learn lessons for the future with this.

We had the informationnfton the start how pandemics work, second waves etc. None of how it's all unfolded has surprised me so far. My betting us summer next year we will be in a much better place. Sorry for all those struggling at the moment.

Yes the EOTHO was all government and yet now our fault because people went out. You couldn't make this shit up. Just look at London and the crowds for Christmas shopping, they were tier 2 at the time what did they expect people to do? Up here in Manchester Tier 3 for a fricking eternity and that has angered people. It def feels like a huge divide

We had the informationnfton the start how pandemics work, second waves etc. None of how it's all unfolded has surprised me so far.

This - I don't understand the 'they told us it would all be over by the summer' brigade.

a) they never said that
b) common sense would tell you that was never going to be the case!

Johnson did utter the words normal by Christmas however.

I also think the poster who put up a long post about how it's a coping mechanism, how deep down we're all really scared and deserve sympathy and understanding is the most patronising twat I've ever come across on MN and that's saying something.

Yep, joy sucked out of most things for me.
It hit me earlier this week when I was reminded that I wouldn't be able to go to Midnight Carols by Candlelight service that has been a staple for so many years. I realise that is a completely minor issue and
I really don't have much to complain about. I haven't been impacted financially and although our entire household had COVID earlier this year everyone made a fairly speedy recovery. I'm just angry on behalf of others who have seen their lives upended due to mismanagement and a poor government.

And the hysteria on MN. God the hysteria. I was hounded off another thread for daring the suggest the resources put towards the Nightingale hospitals could have been better used elsewhere.

BonnieDundee

If people had complied properly then it wouldn't be this bad

Its handy for the government to spread this sort of propaganda to keep us from looking too closely at their role.

^Compliance was far higher than expected. Schools, care homes, hospitals, workplaces and supermarkets are all open. do you really believe the govenment lies that it's spread by people breaking the rules?^

How do you think?

I think its spread mainly in schools care homes and hospitals

@arevioletsreallyblue

Climbing over the bodies of other issues to shove yours in peoples faces is crass and offensive.

I 100% agree. Climbing over the bodies of people who are on the brink of suicide, will never financially recover and are seeing their lives torn apart in every way by screaming at them 'Atleast you're not dead, count yourself lucky' and 'be grateful for what you have' is crass and offensive

I’m tired of tiptoeing round their fragile little sensibilities and whining.

And I'm tired of tiptoeing round the fragile little sensibilities and whining of people who screech 'you're putting me at risk' when you dare to come within 3 ft of them in the supermarket because they've spent 5 fucking minutes hovering over the potatoes. Or who claim that anyone who decides to put themselves first just once is a selfish Fucker and putting them at risk despite having nothing to do with them - mind your own fucking business. Guess what, I think you're a selfish fucker for asking me to tank my own mental health to keep you safe from a virus you have a 99% chance of being fine with. I think you're a selfish fucker for 'doing the right thing' by staying in, getting your food delivered and take seats, forcing people like me to work more hours, put myself more at risk, and then lamenting me when I do catch covid because it's obviously because I broke the roolz and not because it's impossible to social distance in the job I do

Everyone is 'selfish' in this pandemic. It's just for some people what's best for them happens to fall in the roolz and they conveniently forget that whilst they're living in their ivory towers someone has to facilitate their rule following.

@arevioletsreallyblue brilliant post 👏

I didn't expect us to be repeating the same things that don't work, by Christmas.

I didn't expect to be shown extreme, fear mongering graphs of what could happen but was never going to. Graphs showing real scenarios would have been enough and would have meant they hadn't lost my attention and trust.

I didn't expect cafes and restaurants that put so much money and effort into distancing to be told to close

I had expected track and trace to remove a need for massive swathes of the country to be under extreme regulations.

I did expect that by now they'd be taking into account the additional human costs of any of their decisions

@SufferingFromLongLockdown I think for the most part those in power haven't been affected. Their lives haven't changed. It's business as usual for them. It's us the minions that are always impacted. They haven't seen any loss of earnings etc - just the opposite. It's just a shit show

@SufferingFromLongLockdown

I didn't expect us to be repeating the same things that don't work, by Christmas.

I didn't expect to be shown extreme, fear mongering graphs of what could happen but was never going to. Graphs showing real scenarios would have been enough and would have meant they hadn't lost my attention and trust.

I didn't expect cafes and restaurants that put so much money and effort into distancing to be told to close

I had expected track and trace to remove a need for massive swathes of the country to be under extreme regulations.

I did expect that by now they'd be taking into account the additional human costs of any of their decisions

Totally agree

So with that attitude we end up with full hospitals cancelling procedures and scans

Yes, I am fed up of them repeating the failure of trying to balance economy and health, when the countries that are doing better economically have gone for very aggressive virus suppression policies

Other thing I’m fed up with is comparisons to other countries.

Nearly all of Europe is in the same mess. Really over hearing about irrelevant countries.

I’m very very very bored of ‘saving lives’ and would much prefer to have a life

I don’t feel the need to be a hero and save a life. I accept there is a virus, a bit like a cold, and I just want to continue living a life with that risk in plain sight

Tbh I’m getting very reckless with the rules. I don’t care anymore. At all. Last night was a rule breaking night with friends. Shoot me now.

Only a few of my friends still give a shit, and it’s hard not to eye roll at their hysteria.

I suppose I had a rosy little image of streets with cafes on that had been allowed to put out chairs and tables and heaters, blankets, twinkly lights etc and really embrace a need to be more outdoors. To do things differently but make it as special and cosy as possible.

I thought by now I'd be able to meet friends at these places.

But of course with all the uncertainty, few have been able to invest and many that have were forced to close anyway.

Instead of thinking outside the box, we've embraced such a shit, mean, miserly way of handling this thing.

Agreed.

I simply no longer care about the constant media scaremongering and the doom and gloom overload.

I simply cannot trust a government that does not treat us like responsible adults (the way the information is given is appalling and it seems to be all about frightening people to death rather than calmly sharing all the facts) and who have failed to manage any aspects of this efficiently.

To me it is simply illogical to lock people who have a very low risk of dying of this when you look at the statistics and in the process destroy our livelihoods and mental health. And to repeat the process over and over.

I did not vote for this lot and they no longer have my compliance.

I follow the rules that make sense to me, hand washing, homeworking and mask wearing in shops.

I no longer follow anything to do with me not being able to visit my group of friends or socialising indoors with them. I am single and refusing to spend my entire year without seeing anyone.

I bet If they started publishing the figures of all the people who have the cold at any one time people would crap themselves as well. The numbers with it mean nothing because they don’t necessarily translate to hospital cases. In my area we were much harder hit case number wise than in March/April yet the hospital numbers remained steady

@AlwaysLatte

If people had complied properly then it wouldn't be this bad.

That's bollocks. Same old tripe. It's a bloody virus!!! If our govts had acted quicker and not destroyed our health service you mean. So sick of other normal people being blamed for this.

@AlwaysLatte

NB I've never agreed with schools opening fully the way they did and 'bubbles' of 100s of kids. The government were wrong on that.

Some schools are handling it far better than others. I have heard of bubbles containing 150 kids ?! our primary school is a class bubble of 30. Full stop.

@RaspberryCoulis

You lovely, sensible people.

Done with it too. As someone said way back at the beginning of the thread, it's almost as if some posters have discovered death for the first time. I could tell you all about the people I know who have died since March (none from Covid) and their deaths are just as important as Covid deaths. But the elderly mother of a friend was left to die scared and alone because the nursing home was shut to visitors because of Covid. It's inhumane.

My kids have missed out on exams, driving lessons, seeing friends - all the usual teenage stuff for almost a year. The charity shop where I volunteer is losing so much money because of the restrictions we have to operate under.

I'm done with it. We're doing the big stuff of working from home, not having house parties. But I have had a friend into the house for coffee every week, regularly cross the council boundaries for non-essential reasons (illegal in Scotland), DD is going to a friend's house to get her hair cut on Tuesday, I give my kids' friends a lift home.....

Yes THIS. Completely. Small measured, low risk. Nothing wild just occasional, well needed human contact

In my large town there are 284 people who have coronavirus right now in a population of 300,000

284

It would be really hard to actually catch it if I tried.

But we are ‘very high alert’

I’m so so tired of the gas lighting