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Has anyone else lost the will to care?

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whatToDoHerre · 17/12/2020 21:46

I have. I barely care about anything anymore. I don't know what we are fighting for - if this is life then is it worth living? We are not living, we are only existing at this point.

We could be in for months and months of restrictions and there's even talk of a third lockdown. Because the first two worked so well?

In a few short months a whole year of our lives will have been restricted.

If there is light at the end of this tunnel it's a very long tunnel, and I don't think we've travelled very far.

OP posts:
MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2020 18:56

Aren’t we all going to get it? That’s what I’m finding hard to work out.

Not the vaccinated. But under a pretty high age bar.

Everything will open up after phase 1 and virus will circulate. I understand why we can’t do this now because elderly etc overwhelm healthcare.

But remove them and we’re in cinemas and restaurants etc as normal, aren’t we? And it will circulate and the dc too.

MadameBlobby · 18/12/2020 18:57

@Flaxmeadow

enjoying the drama of division and pretending you’re in some sort of resistance movement?

Partly yes but also ironically some are pp who were "absolutely terrified" back in March and wanting advice about their own "terrifying" and "scary" situations. Also still posting are the "it's only flu" deniers, but together they all have one thing in common, that underneath all the, increasingly flimsy bravado, they're all having an extremely difficulty time facing up to how serious the situation is.

Covid denial is why we get the repeated silly "I'm going to kill a granny" comments or asking other poster to "leave" the thread. The labelling of other posters as 'dementors" followed by pages of of "yah yah" and laughing emojis. It's tiresome yes, it's transparent too to others , but it's just a coping mechanism. A group coping mechanism. Making childish jokes or burying heads in the sand with each other is how some people get through it. It's just how it is when people are scared.

Patronising twaddle
MaxNormal · 18/12/2020 18:58

Patronising twaddle

And unkind, and tone-deaf.

Pootle40 · 18/12/2020 18:58

Oh and this, which is perhaps more telling about deaths attributed to COVID.

The number of deaths from dementia and Alzheimer’s disease fell by 4.7 per cent to 1,246;

I don't remember any sudden new treatments for Alzheimer's or dementia.....

NamechangedforAIBU · 18/12/2020 19:04

I am usually a very sociable person, love festivals, theatre, dining out, travel abroad fir holidays several times a year and enjoy sporting events .....I hate it.

I particularly find annoying the ones who don't do or understand the enjoyment from those things saying its great....Hmm....
Some seem to love no sociable contact, staying in etc etc ...Great for them, but we are not all the same!

Many of us are struggling and I am following almost all the guidelines ....doesn't seem to be working though!

IcedPurple · 18/12/2020 19:09

I particularly find annoying the ones who don't do or understand the enjoyment from those things saying its great....hmm....
Some seem to love no sociable contact, staying in etc etc ...Great for them, but we are not all the same!

What's even worse is when they get all smug about 'reflecting on what's important' or 'an opportunity for a new normal with less commercialism and more respect for the environment'. Just phuck off.

Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 19:12

•13,295, the number of deaths in 2020 quarter three is...

What do you mean by "quarter three"? Do you mean the quarter Jul/Aug/Sept?

Coasterfan · 18/12/2020 19:14

This is the first time I have really struggled, I feel like there is nothing and it’s all so bleak just relentless traffic, work, school, and our horrible house. Everything we love has gone and there is nothing to look forward to. It’s a week before Xmas and I haven’t bought a single present, I just have no motivation at all.
I went to a meeting yesterday somewhere where multiple staff had tested positive earlier in the week and no one thought to tell me and give me the choice to use zoom until the end of the meeting. My grandad had a stroke on Wednesday and his prognosis is poor but he’s in a care home 3 hours away and we can’t visit. He is like a dad to me as mine never bothered. And now I m stuck at home for two weeks with my (D)P who will just get pissed snd irritate me all day. The kids don’t want to do anything as the theme parks are shut and the things we have done so far have been depressing as hell so they don’t even want to bother booking anything else.
Our house is horrible as it’s rented so I m not spending money on it and we are usually out and about or away all the time so I don’t usually care but now it just adds to the utter gloom and hopelessness.
Thanks for the thread and the chance to offload.

ramblingsonthego · 18/12/2020 19:19

I feel like of this. I have followed all the rules, been very compliant and now I have been made redundant, lost our house sale and purchase because of that, and now lost Christmas with my mum due to isolating. I do not want to live like this anymore. I have had enough. To be honest not living would be preferable most days. Its a horrible existence, I see no joy in life and every day is like the worst groundhog day in the world.

Bibidy · 18/12/2020 19:21

@Flaxmeadow

Willingly threw 100% into the first lockdown and was so strict, but now we know nothing works

But it did work. The infection rate went down steeply

Yes but it isn't sustainable.

I don't think people realised during the first lockdown that it would be a never-ending thing. It was doable for those few months as I think most thought things would get better after it ended, but now we know better. We can't live like this forever.

Skipsurvey · 18/12/2020 19:30

colleagues are playing the blame game, i think i would be hung drawn and quartered if i was so stupid to catch the virus.
apparently we are all sensible,
they dont know the meaning of the word bubble by the sound of how many bubbles including work bubbles they have
i cant imagine what life will be like in january, it is normally depressing as it is!

Skipsurvey · 18/12/2020 19:31

i wish christmas could be cancelled, ie, i wish my dm was not coming to my house, i have such fear, as she does

Schonerlebnis · 18/12/2020 19:34

@MaxNormal lucky you that you've had it and left with no lingering symptoms. What a hero. Typical I'm alright Jack. Maybe have some sympathy for all of us affected by this whole shit show, whether it be people who've lost their jobs, their homes, loved ones, the key workers who've had to work in absolute shit conditions. Minimising really does not help, why is someone struggling with mental health due to lockdown more worthy than keyworkers struggling with anxiety about catching the virus and asking people to be careful ? Everything has become so polarised, people are demonised because they offer a different viewpoint...

Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 19:36

Yes but it isn't sustainable.

That's why the lockdowns are eased for a time, to help the economy recover but when it looks as if the NHS might be unable to cope, then the lockdowns are tightened again

I don't think people realised during the first lockdown that it would be a never-ending thing.

But to be fair, we have not been told there would be a quick end to the measures. If you go back and watch the daily briefings, they told us this would happen and that it would take time

It was doable for those few months as I think most thought things would get better after it ended, but now we know better. We can't live like this forever

But we have been told, over and over again what would happen and is happening. If most thought we would only have one lockdown (March/April etc) then they have not been listening to what has been said. Maybe they don't watch the news or read the papers, I dont know. But you can't force people to watch them i suppose

It won't last forever. We have vaccines being rolled out and, as I've said many times on here, quick affordable testing I think is a big way forward. If people can have an instant test, say a mouth swab, and if it's cheap, costs pennies, then this would open up so much leisure and work again. It wouldnt be that inconvenient. Say if you wanted to go to a concert or to a club, restaurant or pub. To take an instant test to gain entry. It will be way better than the situation now

amicissimma · 18/12/2020 19:37

"Aren’t we all going to get it?"

On the Diamond Princess, where Covid was spreading unchecked and unsuspected among a group of people of whom many were elderly and frail and were in close proximity for hours, with limited external ventilation, about one fifth of the population caught Covid and, of those, half had no symptoms. They were nearly all tested.

Although it's hard to be confident about historical numbers, it seems that about one in three caught the black death. 1918/19 Spanish flu, with no effective treatments, no understanding of the disease process and limited infection control, again, infected about one in three.

With some disease control measures, a mixed population in terms of age and fitness and now vaccination, it would probably be reasonable to think that something between 10 and 25% of us might expect to catch Covid.

That's my personal guestimate, of course, but it seems unlikely that it will be as bad as 1 in 3, which would still mean that 2/3 us wouldn't get it. And bear in mind that about 50% (we don't know for sure) who get it have no symptoms.

MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2020 19:38

Yes but they also said people would tire. And here we are we have tired.

MaxNormal · 18/12/2020 19:38

@Schonerlebnis I'm too numb to care. Stop lecturing me and leave me the hell alone, what's wrong with you?

MaxNormal · 18/12/2020 19:40

And who the hell do you think you are dictating to people what they should and shouldn't care about anyway?
The unbelievable arrogance of you.

MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2020 19:40

@amicissimma

"Aren’t we all going to get it?"

On the Diamond Princess, where Covid was spreading unchecked and unsuspected among a group of people of whom many were elderly and frail and were in close proximity for hours, with limited external ventilation, about one fifth of the population caught Covid and, of those, half had no symptoms. They were nearly all tested.

Although it's hard to be confident about historical numbers, it seems that about one in three caught the black death. 1918/19 Spanish flu, with no effective treatments, no understanding of the disease process and limited infection control, again, infected about one in three.

With some disease control measures, a mixed population in terms of age and fitness and now vaccination, it would probably be reasonable to think that something between 10 and 25% of us might expect to catch Covid.

That's my personal guestimate, of course, but it seems unlikely that it will be as bad as 1 in 3, which would still mean that 2/3 us wouldn't get it. And bear in mind that about 50% (we don't know for sure) who get it have no symptoms.

Thanks for answering my question. I’ll obviously take this positivity over everyone. What about waning immunity does that change it?
Tootletum · 18/12/2020 19:41

Yeah. Just get a subscription to the spectator. Makes you feel less alone in pondering the complexities rather than the usual "oh well if I've saved one life then it's worth it and it's easy and we'll make up the money spent", bla bla.

BenidormLife · 18/12/2020 19:42

Yes op I hear you. A friend of mine (aged 52) committed suicide as a result. I am so angry that this is happening

Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 19:43

Yes but they also said people would tire. And here we are we have tired.

Yes here we are, but I'm not sure what else can be done to control it ATM

rumandbiscuits · 18/12/2020 19:45

Yes I've had enough as well. I feel as though every week of this year that's gone by I've been chipped away at and now I'm at the stage where I don't want to talk or hear anything negative or positive about coronavirus anymore. I just want to bury my head under a blanket and forget this whole year ever happened.
I have two work friends who talk about it constantly, they manage to relate any subject back to it. They are both hugely afraid and I really worry for the MH, it's become an obsession for them. They are both refusing to socialise with anyone who refuses the vaccine. I can't bring myself to speak to them anymore. Neither are high risk either, both in their 40s and no underlying issues.

MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2020 19:46

@Flaxmeadow

Yes but they also said people would tire. And here we are we have tired.

Yes here we are, but I'm not sure what else can be done to control it ATM

I know. I know that unpalatable decisions in healthcare are not acceptable to many. But I also see that people are fed up, broken, numb or fucked off
Flaxmeadow · 18/12/2020 19:49

I know. I know that unpalatable decisions in healthcare are not acceptable to many. But I also see that people are fed up, broken, numb or fucked off

Yes. Winter doesn't help either, when its getting dark at 3.30 pm. These next couple of months I think will he hard for many, but the infection rate has levelled somewhat but yes, fucked off with it too