Press conference tonight to clear up Christmas confusion

[Hapixmas]

www.itv.com/news/2020-12-16/boris-johnson-to-hold-covid-press-conference-with-update-on-christmas-rules-expected

Boris will have a 'little Christmas ' then eh?

And again with "have yourself a Merry little Christmas". I take it that's the new slogan now. Gobshite.

Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford just wait around to amend things in order to score points

This makes me laugh. If they announce anything first they are accused of gazumping Boris or trying to steal his thunder. If they announce anything different after then they are amending only to score points. If they do the same thing they are copycats and sheep who should be making specific decisions to fit their own countries

@HarrietOh

'Inhuman to cancel Christmas.'

But Eid the night before was OK...

Yes, you can't constrain people too much over Christmas but you can do so for Eid

Have yourselves a small, short merry Christmas

Don't go next sale be wise

I'm really pissed off at the guilt tripping over this. "You can do this...but don't...do you really have to?...can't you just wait until Easter...don't really go ahead and do what we've said you can do".

These slogans have Dominics hands all over them .. I very much doubt his not working there anymore. They feel like the kind of things he would dream up for him to say.

In the summer when he wouldnt resign (and BJ wouldnt sack him) I said the obvious thing to do would be to resign (to appease everyone) and then, if they cant trust BJ to manage on his own, behind the scenes they could make up some slightly amended title and get him back in doing the same as before. It's not as if any of them have a conscience about any of this stuff. Hes probably still employed by the government under a different title.

Do I stay or do I go now?

BBC are now reporting that Wales have made the decision to change the law (not guidance) to be a maximum of two not three households.

Just minutes after the press conference to clear up confusion...

@CoffeeCreamandSugar

Do I stay or do I go now?

Stay.

Respect to Wales, it's tough for them though x who would want to be Boris now..or any leader..no matter what political side you stand on, it's very tough times for them!! Hope everyone is keeping safe xx

Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford just wait around to amend things in order to score points

No, they try to do what's best for the people of Scotland and Wales. Also note they both made statements earlier today about Christmas, it is Johnson that is playing catch-up if anything.

I swear every time I see Boris Johnson.

I also swear he looks more and more unwell every time too

Forget Christmas 2021,he ended by saying that 'lt will be over by next Christmas

According to BBC: Whitty says says social distancing will need to stay in place when the vulnerable have been vaccinated, as those outside of this group will still be at risk.

I don’t get this - the whole point was to save the vulnerable and the NHS (and rightly so). So why do measures need to stay in place once they are protected?

@TheChineseChicken

According to BBC: Whitty says says social distancing will need to stay in place when the vulnerable have been vaccinated, as those outside of this group will still be at risk.

I don’t get this - the whole point was to save the vulnerable and the NHS (and rightly so). So why do measures need to stay in place once they are protected?

As far as I understand it it’s because even if you’ve had the vaccine you can still catch Covid (just not as severely) which potentially means you can still spread it... it’ll be a reverse when all the vulnerable have been vaccinated and they will say that everyone else is now at risk from the vulnerable and vaccinated

I did say sorry about my point scoring !
Anyway, it didn't really clear anything up to be honest. Just use common sense.
Stay safe etc.

Most of the confusion is from having 4 sets of rules - just slightly different so the devolved assemblies get to feel good.

@TheChineseChicken

According to BBC: Whitty says says social distancing will need to stay in place when the vulnerable have been vaccinated, as those outside of this group will still be at risk.

I don’t get this - the whole point was to save the vulnerable and the NHS (and rightly so). So why do measures need to stay in place once they are protected?

Whitty's answered that

"Population immunity will occur if we have vaccines that can reduce transmissions between people," Whitty says.

He says they have a "high degree of confidence" that the vaccine reduces the risk of serious disease "by a large amount".

But, he says, "we don't yet know if this will lead to a reduction in transmission".

"We hope we will have a vaccine that protects the person that has it and protects people around them, but we will have to wait and see over time," he says.

Whitty adds that there will be deaths "for the foreseeable future but at a much lower level".

Because the definition of who is “vulnerable” doesn’t cover everyone who is at higher risk from covid @TheChineseChicken. There will still be a large number of people who will fall seriously ill and need hospital until the vaccine has been widely rolled out.

But surely it doesn’t matter that it’s being spread if those who are vulnerable are protected? In my age and health group, for example, the death rate is practically nil

I am in Wales and i have just seen the news
The new restrictions in Wales mean:

All non-essential shops cannot reopen after Christmas Eve - meaning no Boxing Day sales on the High Street
Gyms, leisure centres, hairdressers and other close-contact services must all also shut at the end of the working day on December 24
Christmas bubbles should now only include two families instead of three
Full lockdown will start in Wales on December 28
The new restrictions apply to the whole of Wales. They will be reviewed after three weeks.

It just feels like its never going to end

Yes, sorry I get the rationale in that sense but why is this different to any other disease circulating that might make some people ill? I’m not being goady - genuine question

@willsantausesantatize

I did say sorry about my point scoring ! Anyway, it didn't really clear anything up to be honest. Just use common sense. Stay safe etc.

Yes you did, I didn't realise. Sorry, am in Wales and feeling a bit upset about how things are going. It's just so grim.