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Making isolating 13 yr old not leave her room for 10 days!!

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novaparty12 · 14/12/2020 18:43

My niece is 13 and on Friday she was told to isolate by her school as the girl she sits next to tested positive. She lives in London where transmission is really high. I spoke to MIL today who said that my SIL has told her she is not allowed out of her room apart from going to the toilet or having a shower. All meals are left outside her door for her to collect and my SIL went shopping and spend £50 on snacks and drinks so she doesn't have to leave her room. MIL is really worried about her she keeps phoning her in tears. My SIL is autistic and takes everything very very seriously but surely confining a 13 yr old to her room for 10 days is going a bit far isn't it??

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Nicknacky · 15/12/2020 22:02

@DreadingSeason2020sFinale Why don’t you care? Maybe you can see you have been wrong when so many posters have been agast at what you have done?

It would certainly make me think if I had done the right thing to my young child.

DreadingSeason2020sFinale · 15/12/2020 22:02

Apologies @Helmetbymidnight, I've just checked my follow up email.

It's Test and protect.

@Nicknacky no, but like most pre teens and teens, she spends huge amounts of time in there.

I don't think sitting watching Tipping point in the living room with her parents is a huge draw for them tbh.

Nicknacky · 15/12/2020 22:05

@DreadingSeason2020sFinale

I have a 13 year old, she spends a lot of time in hers. Massive difference to what you have done. You can minimise how important it is to have normal contact with your family but your child is 11!!

BigSisLittleSisCardboardBox · 15/12/2020 22:05

I work in a school and only two P7 classes have had to isolate so far. The teacher in one class said some parents had done this to their kids and we all pretty much couldn’t believe it. I self isolated from my family when I had actual symptoms at the height of the pandemic in April. No way would I be making my kids do that if not symptomatic. Seems very cruel. With our one confirmed case, no other children or adults developed symptoms.

saraclara · 15/12/2020 22:53

@DameFanny

I was pointing you at the NHS advice. You know, the NHS?
Yes. I read the NHS website as I said. I then pointed people to the govt website. It's the govt that has set the rules, not the NHS.
DickAndSizzy · 16/12/2020 08:54

@Offtothedogs

Fucking hell. I can't believe what I'm reading. A lot of people have well and truly lost all sense of perspective and a fair bit of their humanity too. For fuck's sake.
Me neither. It's appalling.
Theodoreb · 16/12/2020 09:07

Haven't read whole thread my blood pressure couldn't take it, i was on the shielding list, so very vulnerable add to that I've just been in hospital for a illness you only catch with a low immune system. Dd1 has been sent home to isolate 4 times at no point was she confined to her room this world has gone utterly mad.

PerveenMistry · 16/12/2020 12:35

@Dee1975

I don’t think that’s correct. She needs to self isolate but doesn’t has to from others in household - unless she starts to develop symptoms herself. Then the whole household has to make provision to be away from her and not share stuff etc ... of course the safest thing would be for her to isolate on her own. But that’s impossible for a child and could cause more issues. Which is why the rules are that she self isolate from the world, but not household. They just need to take extra precautions.

Do so few really not understand the concept of "asymptomatic transmission " ?!

If none but the people who feel sick could infect others, we wouldn't be amid a global pandemic with thousands of human beings dying each day.

RickOShay · 16/12/2020 17:00

We could all be asymptomatic at any time though. There’s no way of knowing.
The advice is to self isolate at home. The rest of the household does not need to self isolate. That’s the official advice.

Delatron · 16/12/2020 17:47

Imagine making up your own rules that involve shutting kids away in their rooms for weeks.

Bonkers behaviour.

TheKeatingFive · 16/12/2020 18:19

Imagine making up your own rules that involve shutting kids away in their rooms for weeks.

I know right?

I think some people are genuinely cruel and love the excuse.

Then others have been driven totally bonkers by their fear of this disease.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 16/12/2020 18:23

If none but the people who feel sick could infect others, we wouldn't be amid a global pandemic with thousands of human beings dying each day.

Perhaps we should all just isolate in separate rooms and avoid family permanently regardless of whether we might have been exposed!

mollscroll · 16/12/2020 18:27

Agree rudolph.

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2020 18:50

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

If none but the people who feel sick could infect others, we wouldn't be amid a global pandemic with thousands of human beings dying each day.

Perhaps we should all just isolate in separate rooms and avoid family permanently regardless of whether we might have been exposed!

you can make an argument ad absurdum, but the simple fact is, that the more people mingle the more infections and deaths increase. all the experts agree on that. then there are the discussions about how much risk is reasonable, or unavoidable, or how it affects others etc. but no one rational disputes that the more people meet and mix the more virus there is. therefore it makes sense to severely limit mingling. this is why so many experts are worried about what will happen in january. look at america after thanksgiving.
RickOShay · 16/12/2020 20:15

Yes. But you aren’t mingling when self isolating at home.

PerveenMistry · 16/12/2020 22:46

@RickOShay

Yes. But you aren’t mingling when self isolating at home.
If others in the family are exposed to you and then leave the house to work, shop, etc, they are mingling your potential asymptomatic viral infection with others.

If they get sick and expect health care, they are exposing providers to a situation that could readily have been avoided.

If no one in the house is going out whatsoever, then have at it.

Is that really so difficult to grasp?

PerveenMistry · 16/12/2020 22:50

@RickOShay

We could all be asymptomatic at any time though. There’s no way of knowing. The advice is to self isolate at home. The rest of the household does not need to self isolate. That’s the official advice.

Umm, yes.

That's why no one should be going out except for essential food, health care or distanced outdoor activities, if they aren't absolutely required to go out for work or school.

Those who must leave home to earn a living should be doubling down on precautions as should those they live with.

Bikingbear · 17/12/2020 00:27

Self isolating children in a loving family home is awful.

I've just read on the BBC website that Children who moved into Children's homes were self isolated. I can't even find words, WTAF, children who've been through who knows what effectively put into solitary confinement. I'm upset and angry that how these children have been treated.
I kind of get the worry of passing covid to other children but no that's brutal.

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RickOShay · 17/12/2020 06:19

@PerveenMistry
Please don’t patronise me. It does you a disservice. I’m following government advice, and have done since March.
Keep your self proclaimed superiority to yourself.

hamstersarse · 17/12/2020 06:46

I find this thread so horrifying.

Right from the start I’ve suspected there is a disproportionate response to this virus.

I just didn’t imagine we would get to a place where people are adamant that locking a 13 year old autistic child who is asymptomatic in their room is a good thing to do - I never imagined this could even be a debate. It’s clearly so very very wrong.

The children’s home story mentioned above is cruel, plain and simple. Cruel. Could have lasting psychological damage on these already traumatised children. In our tunnel vision pursuit of one form of humanity (save lives, save lives, save lives) we have forgotten what it means to be fully human. We are herd animals, we live in groups. Solitary confinement is the worst punishment we can dish out to a human, it destroys them. It’s the highest form of punishment in every jail system....yet here we are reading that parents are willingly dishing this out to their own children and there’s actual debate as to whether that is ok

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 17/12/2020 07:49

That's why no one should be going out except for essential food, health care or distanced outdoor activities, if they aren't absolutely required to go out for work or school.

Not the 'essential food' crap again. If a shop is open we can go to it, there's money point them being open otherwise!

Bollss · 17/12/2020 08:01

What is it with making up your own version of the rules and throwing your toys out when other people don't follow them?

GabriellaMontez · 17/12/2020 09:08

That's why no one should be going out except for essential food, health care or distanced outdoor activities, if they aren't absolutely required to go out for work or school

And who decided this? Some nutter on mumsnet? I'll give it a miss thanks.

PerveenMistry · 17/12/2020 10:56

@GabriellaMontez

That's why no one should be going out except for essential food, health care or distanced outdoor activities, if they aren't absolutely required to go out for work or school

And who decided this? Some nutter on mumsnet? I'll give it a miss thanks.

No, science decided it.

Too bad there are so many who are too thick to understand the basics of how viral transmission works.

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