Covid 19 vaccine vaccination numbers, why won't they tell us?

[MG2020]

I've been looking for a few days about the number of people vaccinated in the UK. However, this appears to be some kind of secret.

Does anyone know how many people have been vaccinated and how many vaccinations we have in the UK and what we can expect by mid Jan 2021?

I fear this secrecy means that things are not going to plan and when Matt Hancock said the other day that tens of thousands of people had been vaccinated, it was far from true.

You may recall the figures about Covid 19 tests when we were told x amount of tests were carried out but they failed to declare that everyone had at least two tests and many NHS staff and others in hospital were being tested several times a day therefore 100k tests may have been 20k tests in reality.

I want the jab and so do our children but both are severely allergic so we are praying for others to come on line ASAP.

I want to know whether the entire first tranch of vaccine will be given and then hope we get a second batch within 21 days.
Or they keep half the batch back for the second injection?
Would make a vast difference to the the numbers being treated.

Thanks.
That is another question that can't be answered.

Anyone. Is it a top secret about the numbers vaccinated or are they so low that it will make this messed up government look even worse.

I was expecting 800k people to get their first jab well before Christmas.

This is exactly what I was wondering OP!!

I would really love some numbers. They seem not to have vaccinated any care home residents yet for example.

Also numbers for how many doses are actually in the UK. I heard they had 1000 for 8 London boroughs! That sounds like there is a problem getting the right numbers. When is more arriving?

last I heard they did 10k people in the first day of vaccinating in the major hub hospitals, including many care home workers. I think the technical challenge of getting the care home residents done is about moving the injection once it's made up.

I've not heard there have been any significant issues so far...?

I’m quite glad we don’t get daily updates. It’s just another thing for obsess about and once they start they can’t stop it easily. It becomes an expectation for the armchair experts. It also puts unnecessary pressure in the medics. Look at the threads when the daily cases/ deaths are an hour late. Full of discussion as to why blah blah.
Leave the experts to just get on with it without the media yet again breathing down everyone necks.
I would like to see monthly updates but daily/ weekly is too much.

It's a massive logistical issue to do the care homes. They really need to do it but the vaccine can't be out of the very very cold freeze for very long at all or it will be wasted.

There are capacity and consent issues for very many care home residents with dementia. Imagine if they sent out batches and large numbers refused to be injected, lacked capacity to consent etc

Plus they need trained staff to administer which they wouldn't have in residential care settings.

They only have a few hrs window once they take it out of the -70 so if the truck broke down or there was some mess up with staffing or the residents weren't essentially just lined up with their sleeves rolled up it would risk being wasted.

Same applies to community settings

That's why it's really only being given in hospitals as present and it does sound scarily ad hoc with staff being offered fairly randomly so as not to waste supplies. I mean I am all for staff getting vaccinated but not at the expense of over 80s.

If I was them I would only start the updates once people have their second dose. It would send the wrong message out to start now given you’re only fully protected once you have had both. They don’t want people failing to turn up for their second dose.

My local GP practices (group of 5) will have 975 vaccines to dish out next week. It's all arranged. There are 3,400 over 80s, but it's starting. And we are very rural and almost 50 miles from the nearest hospital.

That's good to hear
I hope there are no missed appts or there's a back up list
If even one of the 975 didn't get given it would be awful

I'm remembering when I dropped a vial of B12 I was supposed to give in a home visit on the floor and it smashed in tiny pieces and I didn't have a back up.

The lady was quite nice about it. I cleared up and came back another day but imagine how bad you'd feel if you dropped a vaccine dose.
I think I wouldn't be able to stand the responsibility

They could probably just open the front door of the surgery and yell "Who wants a vaccine?" There's a fair few in the right age group so it shouldn't take too long. (Or I'll go!)

@sashagabadon

I’m quite glad we don’t get daily updates. It’s just another thing for obsess about and once they start they can’t stop it easily. It becomes an expectation for the armchair experts. It also puts unnecessary pressure in the medics. Look at the threads when the daily cases/ deaths are an hour late. Full of discussion as to why blah blah. Leave the experts to just get on with it without the media yet again breathing down everyone necks. I would like to see monthly updates but daily/ weekly is too much.

I agree with this. Let them get on with it.

DH had his first vaccine on Friday. He is GP and their surgery will start doing vaccinations from Tuesday. How quickly the population are vaccinated is going to depend on how many vaccines the U.K. receives. The U.K. is only one country who wants it so I guess we will have to take our turn with all the other countries. The vaccine isn’t for the under 16’s.

Good luck to your DH. Hope all goes smoothly for him

The first day was 5,000 wasn’t it?

It’s probably the time it takes to collate daily figures from disparate sources. I wouldn’t mind numbers but I want resources on deployment and other stuff first.

Look at the thread on I got vaccinated today - plenty of people reporting on themselves or their relatives.

My FIL is getting his in his care home on Tuesday.

There are capacity and consent issues for very many care home residents with dementia. Imagine if they sent out batches and large numbers refused to be injected, lacked capacity to consent etc.Plus they need trained staff to administer which they wouldn't have in residential care settings

I assumed they would give a touring freezer lorry manned with staff who can give the vaccines. Also, clearly it needs planning but that's not impossible is it?

have a touring freezer lorry...

Where would you rather the effort go - into getting the vaccines into arms or counting the arms, I know what I want,

Where would you rather the effort go - into getting the vaccines into arms or counting the arms, I know what I want,

I am not sure the counters are doing the vaccinations. But really I would rather they vaccinated care home residents than almost anything else at this point.

I'm in no way saying it's impossible but just exactly that. It needs very careful planning to avoid waste which would be a big tragedy therefore It's to be expected they didn't manage any community vaccinations the first week.

We should not judge on week 1 figures

It's a minus 70 freezer that's needed not just some ordinary refrigerator truck. I don't think your average food freezer truck can do minus 70.

I am afraid the press will be on the lookout for any wastage scandals as well since they love a bad news story. I'm sure we shall be well informed of any fuck ups that occur.

My local GP practices (group of 5) will have 975 vaccines to dish out next week.

That is great. I wonder why 8 London boroughs got the same number between them.