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Sat crying. This isn’t ending or getting better

401 replies

Napqueen1234 · 26/11/2020 11:35

So sick of this. Back into tier 3. We have followed all the rules. No one in the house since March. I can’t do this all winter. I have two small children and I’m going insane with no family help. People say it’s going to get better but it isn’t. Or it’s months and months away. I can’t stop crying I just want to see my family.

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LampLighterInn · 26/11/2020 18:22

Whats the point in any of it any more.

I hear you but the point is that you and your family don't catch this nasty bastard of a virus. My family & I have been lucky, we've all had it and so far we haven't needed to go into hospital but I'm on Day 5 and I'm still not right, every day seems to bring a different symptom...

Up until last weekend when I got sick it was still very abstract, I didn't know of anyone personally who'd become ill.

It's hard without family and friends to rely on but it's even harder when you're sick and the kids still need feeding

Kjc39 · 26/11/2020 18:44

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RosieLemonade · 26/11/2020 18:44

@User158340

We've just been told this week we can have a 5 day amnesty next month. isn't that something to celebrate for those who want to mix with other households?
Yes we just have to pick which family members we are going to see and carry on not being able to see the rest.
uncomfortablydumb53 · 26/11/2020 19:09

The aspect I find so upsetting is that the Christmas amnesty is based on a typical family. Yes, they do have to chose who the two other households are but so many families do not fit this model
As from December 2nd I will be in tier 2 and it's just dawned on me that because two of my sons are part of another household( I'm not their primary household and live alone) I will be alone at Christmas Sad

TheSunIsStillShining · 26/11/2020 19:09

*User158340

We've just been told this week we can have a 5 day amnesty next month. isn't that something to celebrate for those who want to mix with other households?*

No, that's really to cry about. Or shout. Every effort to drive down numbers to a reasonable level will be wiped so that a random selected day of the year can be "normal". Because people can't be grown ups and just take reasonable measures.

Not to op in particular....
And to the "what's the point?" type of question...

  1. suck it up. You live appr 80 years. This is one, max 2 years of that.
  2. no childcare help. You decided to have kids, not your family. Deal with the consequences of your decision. And yes, have a cry at the end of the day as 2 small kids is exhausting. But many have done, you'll be fine.
  3. moaning on not seeing friends and family: ffs, you could and can see them outside! Mine (both friends and family) are 1700 km away. Haven't seen friends since 2018 summer as I had to work all summer last year. I was set to spend a month there in 2020 to catch up with everyone. haven't seen my parents since 2019 dec. And yet I'm still alive and in perfectly normal (compared to myself) mh. It's called being an adult. And also there is the thing called phone or internet.
And btw... We talk every month with my friends as we have a need to keep our friendship alive. It has worked for 10 years.

I really wish people would stop moaning that they have to stay in all the time (even that is not true potentially) when most have food, shelter, heating. And multiple ways to connect to others.
I really wonder why people disconnect this much as soon as there is no common socializing place/option. Friendships -imo- are not about going to the pub, but having someone to call at the worst hours if needed. Or just having them around for chitchat if that is what's needed. All of these are still allowed!! Nobody is preventing you from picking up the bloody phone.
So instead of moaning on MN call a friend and have a chat.

TheSunIsStillShining · 26/11/2020 19:09

@Napqueen1234
how old are your kids?

uncomfortablydumb53 · 26/11/2020 19:11

@Kjc39
I presume you are being sarcastic?

WeCanFlyHigher · 26/11/2020 19:19

@TheSunIsStillShining

*User158340

We've just been told this week we can have a 5 day amnesty next month. isn't that something to celebrate for those who want to mix with other households?*

No, that's really to cry about. Or shout. Every effort to drive down numbers to a reasonable level will be wiped so that a random selected day of the year can be "normal". Because people can't be grown ups and just take reasonable measures.

Not to op in particular....
And to the "what's the point?" type of question...

  1. suck it up. You live appr 80 years. This is one, max 2 years of that.
  2. no childcare help. You decided to have kids, not your family. Deal with the consequences of your decision. And yes, have a cry at the end of the day as 2 small kids is exhausting. But many have done, you'll be fine.
  3. moaning on not seeing friends and family: ffs, you could and can see them outside! Mine (both friends and family) are 1700 km away. Haven't seen friends since 2018 summer as I had to work all summer last year. I was set to spend a month there in 2020 to catch up with everyone. haven't seen my parents since 2019 dec. And yet I'm still alive and in perfectly normal (compared to myself) mh. It's called being an adult. And also there is the thing called phone or internet.
And btw... We talk every month with my friends as we have a need to keep our friendship alive. It has worked for 10 years.

I really wish people would stop moaning that they have to stay in all the time (even that is not true potentially) when most have food, shelter, heating. And multiple ways to connect to others.
I really wonder why people disconnect this much as soon as there is no common socializing place/option. Friendships -imo- are not about going to the pub, but having someone to call at the worst hours if needed. Or just having them around for chitchat if that is what's needed. All of these are still allowed!! Nobody is preventing you from picking up the bloody phone.
So instead of moaning on MN call a friend and have a chat.

Oh bore off. You know it is possible that the OP is both picking up the phone to her friends and having a moan on MN?
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Napqueen1234 · 26/11/2020 19:24

@TheSunIsStillShining they’re just over one and almost 4

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userxx · 26/11/2020 19:34

@Kjc39 I think that will be a given 🤷‍♂️

User158340 · 26/11/2020 19:35

@TheSunIsStillShining

I mostly agree on a personal level, but we have to acknowledge there are people struggling.

MadameBlobby · 26/11/2020 19:46

If the cause for concern is over 60s getting infected why aren’t there just tighter restrictions on that group? Why do whole industries have to be decimated to protect over 60s?

Coolieloach · 26/11/2020 20:02

@TheSunIsStillShining

*User158340

We've just been told this week we can have a 5 day amnesty next month. isn't that something to celebrate for those who want to mix with other households?*

No, that's really to cry about. Or shout. Every effort to drive down numbers to a reasonable level will be wiped so that a random selected day of the year can be "normal". Because people can't be grown ups and just take reasonable measures.

Not to op in particular....
And to the "what's the point?" type of question...

  1. suck it up. You live appr 80 years. This is one, max 2 years of that.
  2. no childcare help. You decided to have kids, not your family. Deal with the consequences of your decision. And yes, have a cry at the end of the day as 2 small kids is exhausting. But many have done, you'll be fine.
  3. moaning on not seeing friends and family: ffs, you could and can see them outside! Mine (both friends and family) are 1700 km away. Haven't seen friends since 2018 summer as I had to work all summer last year. I was set to spend a month there in 2020 to catch up with everyone. haven't seen my parents since 2019 dec. And yet I'm still alive and in perfectly normal (compared to myself) mh. It's called being an adult. And also there is the thing called phone or internet.
And btw... We talk every month with my friends as we have a need to keep our friendship alive. It has worked for 10 years.

I really wish people would stop moaning that they have to stay in all the time (even that is not true potentially) when most have food, shelter, heating. And multiple ways to connect to others.
I really wonder why people disconnect this much as soon as there is no common socializing place/option. Friendships -imo- are not about going to the pub, but having someone to call at the worst hours if needed. Or just having them around for chitchat if that is what's needed. All of these are still allowed!! Nobody is preventing you from picking up the bloody phone.
So instead of moaning on MN call a friend and have a chat.

I couldn’t agree more, I think this pandemic has really emphasised how people can’t seem to adapt to anything. And the moaning- omg I’ve had to completely detach from people, it’s ridiculous
VanCleefArpels · 26/11/2020 20:29

@LadyFelsham I like your style 👏🏻👍🏻

I’ve found generally that adopting an approach of acceptance, taking one day at a time and remembering some perspective is helpful

Arcadia · 26/11/2020 20:34

@uncomfortablydumb53 if you are part of a separated family then the children can mix with two households per parent, if that makes sense, so you can still bubble with other households

Hardbackwriter · 26/11/2020 20:43

Oh look, people have come to tell us how morally superior they are because they don't moan (apart from all their moaning about moaning, of course). Because smugness won the war or whatever.

Smelliethenelephant · 26/11/2020 20:45

People trotting out tbe 'stop moaning/ count your blessings' tired old fluff please all go away and wallow in your own self-righteousness. This is a shit time. Life is very joyless for very many. It has gone on and on. Why shouldn't the OP be struggling? I know I am. I can go to work and the supermarket. Great. What a joyous and bountiful life.

amicissimma · 26/11/2020 20:55

Well I'm pleased to see that the NHS improved for some people at the turn of the century. My experience of it was dire and got worse and worse. An increase in administrative staff to dismiss my concerns about patient treatment, however.

And, of course, many of the problems that NHS trusts are experiencing now are down to them having to make PFI payments still, rather than pay for staff and equipment that they need.

I don't blame any one political party. I think they all talk up the NHS and run it down, sometimes more subtley than others.

Original poster
Napqueen1234 · 26/11/2020 21:02

@Smelliethenelephant

People trotting out tbe 'stop moaning/ count your blessings' tired old fluff please all go away and wallow in your own self-righteousness. This is a shit time. Life is very joyless for very many. It has gone on and on. Why shouldn't the OP be struggling? I know I am. I can go to work and the supermarket. Great. What a joyous and bountiful life.
Love this. Indeed joyous and bountiful!
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GoldenOmber · 26/11/2020 21:09

It won't be shit forever, but it's certainly shit for now. Hang in there OP Flowers

Jrobhatch29 · 26/11/2020 21:09

@Smelliethenelephant

People trotting out tbe 'stop moaning/ count your blessings' tired old fluff please all go away and wallow in your own self-righteousness. This is a shit time. Life is very joyless for very many. It has gone on and on. Why shouldn't the OP be struggling? I know I am. I can go to work and the supermarket. Great. What a joyous and bountiful life.
Don't be silly. You can also go for a walk. Such fun...Hmm
studychick81 · 26/11/2020 21:26

I nearly cried when I found out we were in tier 3 today. I be remained positive throughout but really finding it hard now. I be spent the day cancelling so much stuff, I am so fed up. The government got it so wrong and we re heading for a third lockdown. We are worse off than when we went into this lockdown.

Velvetpeel · 26/11/2020 21:26

@TheSunIsStillShining

Maybe...just maybe... realise that everyone has different ways they experience life. We go on and on about people speaking out when they face mental health challenges, yet when people share they are having issues they are told to ‘suck it up.’ You don’t get to say how other people feel...give yourself a pat on the back for doing so well in this far from normal situation but be sympathetic to those of us that aren’t doing so well.

OublietteBravo · 26/11/2020 21:27

I can go to work and the supermarket. Great. What a joyous and bountiful life.

I can’t even go to work. My office has been shut since 13 March. And it looks like they’re going to use our facilities as a vaccination site, so no chance of going back any time soon. I’m so sick of spending time at home. It feels like I’m living at work.

Thegereldine3000 · 26/11/2020 21:35

It won't ever end because it's a perfectly fashioned scamdemic perpetuated by fear rather than actual death rates. Wake up to the truth and stop conforming like good little sheep, because all you're achieving is waisting your life. Turn off the properganda and wake up to the truth. Saying its so hard or we're all in it together is just a patronising bitch slap that doesn't help the millions of people who are the real victims of coronavirus. Not in the sense of becoming infected (because less than 1% of people die from it), yet by losing their jobs and being isolated. This is the start to population control. I don't imagine anyone will take a moment to consider what I've said, but know history repeats itself in the presence of ignorance. Your conformaty to government guidlines is no different to the conformity seen in Nazi germany. Wake up to the truth.