Oxford initial news

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Covid-19: Oxford University vaccine shows 70% protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

@Lovemusic33

The Oxford vaccine was given as one half dose followed by a full dose so it may be more effective if given as 2 full doses? 70% is still good and o think studies have shown that those that did catch it after the vaccine only had a mild case?

The other way round.

Administered as a half dose THEN a full dose it is 90% effective.

Brilliant fucking news!

This isn’t anything other than good news. If you have 10 people who are going to catch cv and now only 3 of them do how can that be seen as anything other than positive. We know we can’t get rid of it completely. As others have said give the more expensive harder to distribute but more effective vaccines to those most at risk and the Oxford one to the healthy under 60’s. A total result. Well done scientists!!

I bet we get to have the Oxford vaccine first, cheaper, made in uk, doesn’t need to be stored minus 70, and it’s British.

Give the elderly, NHS, support worker and most vulnerable the Pfizer one at 94% and the rest to have the Oxford one.

I don’t mind which I get and would be happy to pay for it, if it can get the Country back on track. Good news going into 2021.

@Mindymomo

I bet we get to have the Oxford vaccine first, cheaper, made in uk, doesn’t need to be stored minus 70, and it’s British.

Give the elderly, NHS, support worker and most vulnerable the Pfizer one at 94% and the rest to have the Oxford one.

I don’t mind which I get and would be happy to pay for it, if it can get the Country back on track. Good news going into 2021.

this!

Hadn’t the Government banked on the Oxford vaccine and bought more doses of that than the other vaccines

The oxford one is brilliant news for those who can’t take the other vaccines due to suppressed immune systems (whether due to medication or otherwise) from my understanding.

Is anyone else scared to feel positive at this point? I’m so scared we’ll celebrate then something bad will happen, normally I’m positive and could celebrate the sun rising.

@Covidfears

Everything the UK does is shit

I think developing a vaccine which is 90% effective (that's with 1½ doses) which can be delivered, refrigerated, to the developing world at a tenth of the cost of the American vaccine quite brilliant really.

No one is out of the pandemic until everyone is vaccinated (WHO)

@Kinsters

Also pro for the Oxford vaccine is maybe more people will take it as it's not an mRNA vaccine so more normal/less experimental.

It'll be the first human vaccine which is an attentuated adenovirus carrying a different virus's spike (there is one vet vaccine in use).

I have to admit I was originally disappointef when I saw 70% but after reading more and this thread it Really is very good news!

Given you can now use 3 doses for 2 people (as opposed to 4) get 90% and we have a lot ordered it is definitely going to be given out to people as its supply chain is simple

@Quartz2208

Given you can now use 3 doses for 2 people (as opposed to 4) get 90% and we have a lot ordered it is definitely going to be given out to people as its supply chain is simple

And cheap

Also @Covidfears this is one which can be used in developing countries and is inexpensive and doesnt need a complicated system to keep it cold it will be far easier to roll out

I suspect either NHS or extremely vulnerable will get the pfizer one that we have ordered and then the rest of us to get Oxford Vaccine - it should be far more straightforward to roll that one out

does anybody realize that this will be a financial coup for the UK company precisely because it will be easier to transport?
& by the way there are (at least) two vaccines for shingles the NHS uses one that is not as effective (cheaper?) per cent wise but still stops most people getting this disease
At 70% with the Oxford vaccine with good community take up of all age groups this will act as herd immunity - it will more affordable & as many pp have noted easier to transport

It’s 90% effective with two doses. One full dose one half dose.

I think it's important to note that even the 30% who did get covid didn't end up hospitalised.

This whole thing has been about protecting the NHS....job done! Well done oxford scientists. And bring on 2021

Well done U.K.! Well done U.K. scientists and all those that helped. Sarah Gilbert and Prof Pollard must surely be up for knighthoods / dame hoods in the New Years Honours. It is really great news for the World not just us here for all the reasons others have said. Well done Matt Hancock too for getting behind it at an early stage. He must be cock a hoop this morning!

Word of advice DO NOT GO ON TWITTER it is overflowing with people getting the stats and dosages wrong and misunderstanding the results but opining with extraordinary confidence.

My memory is hazy but I had the swine flu jab - what effectiveness was that? I then caught what I think was swine flu and was ill but nothing like how ill dd and then dh were who hadn’t had the jab. So I’m happy if it reduces illness in the 30pc who may get covid still.

Does anyone know how testing is done? Are the people in the trial given the vaccine/placebo and go about their everyday lives. Or are they deliberately exposed to the virus by being placed in rooms with Covid cases?
Presumably they aren't given anything else alongside the vaccine, such as a vitamin regime. Thanks if you know.

@DianaT1969

Does anyone know how testing is done? Are the people in the trial given the vaccine/placebo and go about their everyday lives. Or are they deliberately exposed to the virus by being placed in rooms with Covid cases? Presumably they aren't given anything else alongside the vaccine, such as a vitamin regime. Thanks if you know.

They go about their normal life. There have been no challenge trials ( where people are exposed to the virus) for so far, although they are planned for early next year in the UK. That's for a different vaccine though, not the Oxford one.

Fantastic news. I can't wait, and will be happy to have the Oxford vaccine if that is the one I am offered.
India have invested in the Oxford vaccine, I expect this will be very good news for them.

The challenge trial will probably test several different vaccines. Here are the details www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02821-4

As an NHS consultant for over twenty years, in a really world-class unit (not Boris's meaningless "world-beating", just actually excellent at what it does) I really really object to the "everything the UK does is shit" comment in this context. How widely have you travelled, how many health care/public health/scientific research systems have you worked in?

(And I speak as someone who has actually permanantly left the UK because of Brexit, so I agree fully that most things this and previous dreadful Tory governements have done have been truly shit, but to tar the NHS/scientists in the UK with the same brush is just silly and ignorant).