Christmas is saved

[MiaMarshmallows]

So happy that my partner and big family can all be together this year. We are all really close and get on brilliantly. So pleased at the news today!

[Duggeehugs82]

@MiaMarshmallows

So happy that my partner and big family can all be together this year. We are all really close and get on brilliantly. So pleased at the news today!

I cant decide if this is a serious post or not. The virus isnt deciding on not spreading for few days over Christmas. The threat is still there. Wouldnt people be aware of this? Or do they honestly think that its going to go away for few days?

[Littlefluffyclouds13]

Is it? Because last time I checked I still can't live with my clinically vulnerable husband and certainly won't be able to spend Christmas with him.

What a staggeringly smug and totally unsympathetic post op.
You do know people are in the midst of hell right now, losing jobs, homes and loved ones but whoppee do, as long as you're ok that's fine eh....

[byvirtue]

The piety to enforced lockdown and cancelling Christmas on this thread is astounding.

Lest we forget the vast majority of this country do not actually have covid. I hardly think Christmas going ahead between close families will unleash it upon the masses.

[starfro]

Last time we had the misery trolls saying that VE day, then the beaches, would result in massive spikes.

What a surprise, they didn't.

[OxanaVorontsova]

Asa household we're in contact with about 5000 other people on a daily basis (2 secondary schools, 1 sixth form college) so there is no way I'm risking seeing my 80yo parents or in laws within a week fo breaking up. Schools and colleges are rife with infection.

[heidipi]

@starfro

Pandemic is over, we're past the 2nd peak. All the data shows that. Christmas mixing will make no difference in the long term.

Sadly a complete dumbing down of science and maths education has led to some of the opinions on here.

Can you show me some of "all the data" that shows the pandemic is over? Genuinely keen to know.

[Littlefluffyclouds13]

@starfro misery trolls? Too right I'm miserable. I haven't lived with dh for 3 months now. I'm a teacher and he is basically so vulnerable he'd be totally buggered if he caught covid.
I'm no troll but certainly miserable and very sad.
I miss him so very much, as do my dc.

[Galliano]

Panem et circenses as Junvenal and, probably, Boris Johnson would say

[Lifeispassingby]

In my area in the last week have had nearly 1000 new cases, how can it be sensible for us to mix just because it’s christmas? We cannot mix in the days before or the days after but it’s ok to do so for the few days over Christmas? Christmas may be ‘saved’ but how many lives will affected by these few days of ‘freedom’ and is it really worth that?

[Fcuk38]

Oh please do F off. We will be on lockdown again in January but I suspect you have a certain standard of life where you won’t be impacted by job losses.

[Chailatte20]

We won't be seeing anybody this Christmas, we'll stay home and hibernate. I have vulnerable family members & a new born baby niece so will skip the obligatory family visits to keep us all safe. I really do hope the rates don't rise after Christmas & numbers start to drop for Easter. I plan to see my family then.

[TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair]

You do know people are in the midst of hell right now, losing jobs, homes and loved ones but whoppee do, as long as you're ok that's fine eh....

Whilst I am so sorry about your awful situation with your husband, that's not fair. Even outside of the pandemic, that's life - there will always be people suffering awful tragedies at the same time as other people experience great joy. Do you really want everyone to be miserable just because you are in a shit-awful situation? I have very little to look forward to at Christmas to be honest but it would be awful if everyone was sitting there being equally sad about it all. Society would collapse. We need some people to be having a nice time, they can then prop the rest of us miserable people up

It's horrible if you are struggling but don't take away someone else's happiness. Personally I don't want to meet too many people at Christmas bearing in mind a vaccine is on its way but I think lots of others are low risk enough that why ever not? Cases and deaths will have dropped significantly more by then.

[Hugosmugo]

[quote Littlefluffyclouds13]@starfro misery trolls? Too right I'm miserable. I haven't lived with dh for 3 months now. I'm a teacher and he is basically so vulnerable he'd be totally buggered if he caught covid.
I'm no troll but certainly miserable and very sad.
I miss him so very much, as do my dc.
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I'm truly sorry that you're dh is at risk and that you aren't able to live with him. But your posts come across that because you're in that situation you also expect everyone else to be miserable too?

[studychick81]

I read it's from 22nd- 28th.

Not worth it IMO. Everyone wants to see their family but one day is just not worth it over an extended lockdown in jan.

[halcyondays]

Bah humbug.

[Hugosmugo]

I wish people could actually hear themselves. Mental health is real. People don't want massive parties. They just want to be with some families.

[itsgettingweird]

@starfro

Pandemic is over, we're past the 2nd peak. All the data shows that. Christmas mixing will make no difference in the long term.

Sadly a complete dumbing down of science and maths education has led to some of the opinions on here.

Can you link to the pandemic policy covid has received saying it must end after the second peak

It isn't over. We may be coming down from the second peak because of restrictions but we will have a third if we go mad and mix multiple households.

[starfro]

@heidipi

If you want to know about basic modelling, this is a good start: www.maa.org/press/periodicals/loci/joma/the-sir-model-for-spread-of-disease-the-differential-equation-model

You can clearly see from the data that R is now around 1, and reducing all the time due to immunity buildup. It isn't due to restrictions, if it were it wouldn't look like that.

The pandemic has followed the exact course that Patrick Vallance laid out in March.

[Littlefluffyclouds13]

@Hugosmugo absolutely not, I wouldn't wish my situation on anyone and I'm a very positive person. I count my blessings everyday, even though at the moment it's hard sometimes.
I just wish people would think beyond their own four walls.
The op comes across as incredibly smug and without an ounce of empathy for anyone else.
Even pre covid I had zero tolerance for the 'I'm alright Jack' brigade. I prefer people with a bit of empathy....

[Happymum12345]

Misery trolls? Spend some time on a ventilator fighting to breathe. You might change your mind. I’ve been there and wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

[Lifeispassingby]

Being with family is allowed if you are single then you can mix with others, if you’re not then you can have Christmas with those you live with, but that is clearly not enough for some people and they need more than that

[HoHoHolyMackerel]

This actually makes me angry. I had a baby this year that has been held exactly twice by my mum thanks to the pandemic. I live in the same town as her. WilI I be seeing her on Christmas day? No. Because I want her to be here next year. First time in 35 years we will miss it. January will be barbaric.

[HoHoHolyMackerel]

Honestly... Christmas is saved! It was never bloody lost. You just couldn't eat turkey with someone......

[purplechairandcat]

When was this announced? I can't seem to find anything?