To be weary of the vaccines?

[PunkyPirate]

Will you be getting it?

Will you be allowing your children to get it?

I'm curious to peoples responses as my social media seems to be full of posts from people mocking those who will get the vaccine.

I'm by no means an anti Vaxer. Myself and my children have had all vaccinations and have the flu jab yearly. My only worry is that not enough is known about the long term side effects.

Yes mummy

Theres a documentary on netflix at the moment about medical devices. 3 out the four are regarding womens reproductive health...

Often the manufacturers know there are issues and ignore it. Regular people cannot afford to take this stuff to court against multi million pound companies...

I'll be sat here, with my sleeve rolled up, waiting. Can't wait for the vaccine.

I've even signed up to be a guinea pig in the medical trials, but haven't been called on yet. (And probably won't be called on, alas, as I've already had covid.)

From what I can see, there won't be that many doses to go around, so the more people that don't want it the better

@Whatwouldscullydo

The flu jab is what 40-60 percent effective ? There have been years where effectiveness has been really low as its guess work.

Vaccines aren't always reliable. And its been possible to have things more than once. Eveeyones already killed granny 3 times for going shopping , this vaccine is just the next step in the blame game whoever you end up catching it from , could easily he from someone who has had the vaccine and figured their cough was just part of a cold..

The false sense of security could he more dangerous than not having the vaccine...

The flu jab isn't infallible because there are many different strains of flu. It's not comparable to a specific Covid-19 vaccine which is aimed at protecting you very specifically from this virus only. It's not based on the comparable guesswork involved in flu vaccinations and scientists identifying the likely strains to be prevalent in any given year.

These vaccines have been properly tested and are our route out of lockdowns, thousands of deaths and severe illness for so many people.

I'll be at the front of the queue.

Doesn’t fill me with much confidence when the government put out a tender for Artificial Intelligence hat will be able to cope with an process the adverse reactions they are expecting from the covid vaccine. As they don’t believe their current system will cope with it

Jab me up. It's the only way I can see out of shielding for me

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Yes, my family will all have it ASAP.

Whatwouldscullydo

I have never heard such nonsense in my life! For a start if you could be bothered reading what the scientists are saying you’d see this is nothing like the flu jab.
For a start, flu jabs don’t work very well in older people but all the Covid jabs so far are working brilliantly in older people.
The rest of your post isn’t based on evidence.
As somebody who is close to the scientists on the Oxford vaccine, I cannot wait to get it.
David Salisbury (ex vaccine chief) made a brilliant observation the other day that side effects from vaccines are extremely rare and if they do show, they show up very quickly.
Anyone who is wavering should ask themselves - do I want to help end this pandemic as quickly as possible?
If the answer is yes then get a jab.
Don’t rely on the rest of us sensible people to do the job for you.
Get the safe vaccine

@Georgyporky

I'll have it, but only the UK one. I don't trust anything American; their food standards are much lower than ours, so I wonder about drug standards.

Do you not take any medicines developed by American pharma? That must limit your options quite a bit

Thalidomide wasn't a vaccine
When I was a kid my parents emigrated we had to have: the yellow fever, small pox, typhoid/typhus updates on polio (Salk version) vaccinations -all at once (& we did - strangely enough have a reaction of headaches & fluey like symptoms for a day or so with really sore arms -unsurprisingly) we took it in our stride (with a large dose of asprin) as it was quite normal. (the worst thing was being sprayed with ddt in the airplane when we got there)
So in my long round about way -would I have the vaccine - in a heart beat as would my dh - because he would likely to die from covid.
NB this is not just an American vaccine a German Company is also involved.
My only concern is how easy it would be to store & use this version - & how likely we are to get it as soon as our government think we will - Trump is still in control for now & its like watching a mad spinning top to see how he might react ( note how he is trying to deny NY access)
The alternative to not having this vaccine is a nonlife & our country sinking down the drain - financially, socially & educationally

@user1493494961

I imagine a lot of the refusers will change their minds if they're unable to get travel insurance.

PMSL. I last went abroad in about 2004. Given that lockdown has finished off my income, I'll next be going in about 3004.

I'll probably get it but perhaps its not very nice of me but I'm glad others will get it before me. I think if we see doctors and nurses getting it then I'd think it should be fine and I'd be happy for my parents to get it as I think the dangers of the virus outweigh the risks of a vaccine.

@Georgyporky

I'll have it, but only the UK one. I don't trust anything American; their food standards are much lower than ours, so I wonder about drug standards.

Wow. Just wow. I hope you don't take any US-developed medication then?

@SingANewSongChickenTikka

Absolutely I will get it. The vaccines have (and will) go through completely appropriate safety testing. Yes that has been short circuited due to necessity. Much of the extended time for other vaccines is the necessity to apply for funding, participants, staffing etc. The speed with which these vaccines are coming through are a testament to what can be achieved through (almost) unlimited will and funding to achieve an aim.

yes, absolutely will get it and will encourage anybody I know to get it. Why .... because as a scientist I understand the process of developing a vaccine and agree with the above quote from chicken tikka.

There is too much unfounded fear mongering on social media.

@Ridingthegravytrain

Doesn’t fill me with much confidence when the government put out a tender for Artificial Intelligence hat will be able to cope with an process the adverse reactions they are expecting from the covid vaccine. As they don’t believe their current system will cope with it

Well, makes a lot of sense to use AI powered software to monitor ADRs . The coronavirus vaccination programme would be larger than any adult campaign carried out to date - so why wouldn’t you use AI software?

@kifomadertonasomc

Are you aware of how a double blind trial for a vaccine works? I'll use hypothetical figures.

10,000 people have the new vaccine, 10,000 people have the placebo. Neither the scientists nor the participants know who has had what. You wait until among the 20,000 participants a predetermined number of people catch the disease the vaccine is trying to protect against (100, 150 etc confirmed infections). Then you unblind the trial and you hope that the majority of the people who caught the disease are in the placebo group.

How long does the trial take? How long is a piece of string? How long does it take for 150 out of 20,000 people to catch meningitis? Or mumps? Or HPV? Sometimes quite a long time. In an epidemic where the virus is rife? Not that long. There is no fixed time scale.

I’ll have it as soon as I can, but as I’m healthy and under 40 it’ll be a while!

Anyone unsure of vaccines can I recommend you listen to the episode of ‘this podcast will kill you’ did about vaccines. In fact just listen to all of the podcast and you’ll learn so much about diseases and the research and effort which goes into treatment and vaccinations. It’s very interesting and might make you change your mind.

Yes I will have it. I’m in my thirties, am healthy, will be in the last bracket to qualify I’m sure but that’s fine, I’ll have it.

I’m not afraid of this injection. I’ve had cancer - I’ve survived months and months of liquid chemicals flowing through my body. Radiation. God knows how many pills. Anaesthetic more times than I can count. A well funded (reason why it’s quick) tested vaccine doesn’t frighten me. Especially if it means our lives can return to some degree of normal ness. They way we live now - do we really want to carry on like this?

If the bulk of people are vaccinated and it’s effectiveness is as accurate as currently demonstrating, over time COVID 19 will mutate to a form that is basically like the flu - it will only cause death for the absolute most vulnerable and most will be safe with an annual jab.

I don’t get the logic to not wanting it. Each to their own but just watching the suffering and unnecessary deaths and total destruction of life as we know it......I don’t see why people wouldn’t want one.

[quote Sunshinegirl82]@kifomadertonasomc

Are you aware of how a double blind trial for a vaccine works? I'll use hypothetical figures.

10,000 people have the new vaccine, 10,000 people have the placebo. Neither the scientists nor the participants know who has had what. You wait until among the 20,000 participants a predetermined number of people catch the disease the vaccine is trying to protect against (100, 150 etc confirmed infections). Then you unblind the trial and you hope that the majority of the people who caught the disease are in the placebo group.

How long does the trial take? How long is a piece of string? How long does it take for 150 out of 20,000 people to catch meningitis? Or mumps? Or HPV? Sometimes quite a long time. In an epidemic where the virus is rife? Not that long. There is no fixed time scale.[/quote]
This ^ everyone needs to read this. On this website, on social media, everywhere.

The number of unqualified, fear mongering crackpots posting irresponsible rubbish intended to discourage people from being vaccinated is just appalling.

Yes- will definitely get it when available.

I tell you one thing , you won’t get past Check-In without proof of a vaccine in your passport.

I’ll definitely take it as soon as I’m offered it. The news about the success of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine trials has given me a shot of hope and the first sense in a very long time that my life will more than likely, one day, return to some kind of normal. I wouldn’t forego that for the world.

I'll definitely get it as soon as it's offered.

I'd also really recommend this podcast from Sarah Gilbert about the Oxford vaccine.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mj18