To be weary of the vaccines?

[PunkyPirate]

Will you be getting it?

Will you be allowing your children to get it?

I'm curious to peoples responses as my social media seems to be full of posts from people mocking those who will get the vaccine.

I'm by no means an anti Vaxer. Myself and my children have had all vaccinations and have the flu jab yearly. My only worry is that not enough is known about the long term side effects.

What makes you think we will be "let out" after ?

I’ve read that only over 18’s will vaccinated.

There are definitely some being tested on children now

@wanderings

Your freedom is just a safe vaccine away. Is this going to be the next government slogan?

Here's what it might really mean:
Your freedom is just a safe MANDATORY vaccine away.

Think about it.

And even then, "your freedom is just a vaccine away"; does that mean that you can at once do everything you could pre-Covid, all at once, as soon as you have the haloed vaccine (both parts of it)? What was it some little bird told the BBC about "no normality until winter next year"?

Are we really supposed to take this bollocks seriously from someone who can't spell 'hallowed'

@Whatwouldscullydo

What makes you think we will be "let out" after ?

Why would "they" keep us in?

@SingANewSongChickenTikka

Absolutely I will get it. The vaccines have (and will) go through completely appropriate safety testing. Yes that has been short circuited due to necessity. Much of the extended time for other vaccines is the necessity to apply for funding, participants, staffing etc. The speed with which these vaccines are coming through are a testament to what can be achieved through (almost) unlimited will and funding to achieve an aim.

Totally agree with this, so yes I will take the vaccine when I am offered it.

Yes, I'll be getting it. Everything in life has risks, but if it's a choice between a vaccine, getting Covid 19, or having to live like a hermit for the foreseeable, I'll take the vaccine!

And usually if a vaccine has side effects, these show up pretty immediately - you don't suddenly get long-term effects starting a year later.

I won’t be jumping to have it straight away even though I’m high risk. I understand a lot of work has gone into it but I’m still wary of the fact it would be impossible to fully test and monitor any serious side effects in the time they have had to produce it.

I’ll do my research and decide what is best for me and my family, that’s all any of us can do. I don’t judge those who don’t want it or aren’t sure we are all doing the best thing we can just now with the information we have.

@SingANewSongChickenTikka

Absolutely I will get it. The vaccines have (and will) go through completely appropriate safety testing. Yes that has been short circuited due to necessity. Much of the extended time for other vaccines is the necessity to apply for funding, participants, staffing etc. The speed with which these vaccines are coming through are a testament to what can be achieved through (almost) unlimited will and funding to achieve an aim.

This. It seems quick as companies have not had to jump through hoops to get the funding to do the research. I will be getting the vaccine, my husband has potentially had one, he’s participating in a trial. We find out next year if he got the vaccine or the placebo.

To all those saying it has been rushed - it hasn't been rushed. The technology has been around for years. mRNA vaccines have been being discussed since 2012 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/

The reason they have been able to go so quickly is because they now have HUGE VAST funding that isn't usually available to them but would have caused in normal times the development to be very slow as a result. They need to prove that everything is working to go to the next stage and secure more funding. That has not been a problem with this vaccine development because it affects 100% of the world. Usually vaccines are only for a smaller proportion of the planet, hence matched, smaller funding and far less urgency - means much longer time line.

Please read Florian Krammer's work on Twitter to truly understand vaccines.

If you don't trust the government you can trust Florian Krammer as a virologist in my humble opinion. He's just had the biontech vaccine as part of a trial and I feel if he, a man who has devoted his life to vaccines and viruses thinks it's safe, then that's good enough for me.

twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1310372301314101250

Read this 100 tweet thread link above to get fully up to speed about what has really been going on the last 9 months in terms of vaccine development and I'm certain you will feel reassured!

I will have it when it is eventually launched. If it isn't readily available to me, eg if I am at the end of a long queue, I'll pay to have it.

I've had it! Well maybe I have. 50/50. The vaccine will go through the same process, but some of them will be quicker. It's normal to be wary but read up about them first before dismissing as 'rushed' etc. I've no truck with conspiracy theories either and anyone who has ever experienced government / official bureaucracy would question whether any of them could ever be remotely organised enough to form a department conspiracy, let alone a global one.

I'll be getting it.

@Georgyporky

I'll have it, but only the UK one. I don't trust anything American; their food standards are much lower than ours, so I wonder about drug standards.

The USA has medicines standards equivalent to the EU’s. All of the vaccines will be approved by the MHRA, not the FDA.

I may have already had the vaccine.

I don’t understand people who get the flu vaccine every year saying they won’t be getting the covid vaccine usually citing that not enough is known and it’s been rushed. Do these people think they receive the same flu vaccine each year?

Yes I know that but I am ttc next year so wouldn't want the covid vaccine whilst pregnant but have had the flu jab whilst pregnant. I doubt trials have taken place on pregnant women.

The main issue seems to be about timing and testing for most people.

But majority of the public don’t realise that the reason vaccines normally take years is due to funding and ethical approval, these things take 80/90% of the time.

Plus there has never been a disease in our lifetime that has completely stopped our economy. With cancer etc the world keeps turning. There has been millions thrown at this with multiple countries working together.

Of course I will have the vaccine, and I will pay for every member of my family to have it if they can't get it on the NHS for any reason.

I sympathise with the fear that no long-term safety tests have been performed, but are they for other vaccines? I've never had to worry about it because every vaccine I've ever had has been in use for many years prior anyway.

@Sparklesocks

I will get it. I’ve done a lot of research into why it has been pushed through so quickly compared to other vaccines (lots of resources available) and I’m satisfied.

This.

The speed at which this has been developed really shows up the problems with the usual process - nothing to do with the science, all about the funding models.

I get the flu vaccine, I will have this vaccine as soon as it's available.

I am a scientist and I understand risk. I have no hesitation in being vaccinated.

Yes. I think it's pretty selfish for healthy adults to choose not to get it.

Here's what it might really mean:
Your freedom is just a safe MANDATORY vaccine away.

It won't be mandatory; there won't be enough for all who want/need it for a long time.

And even then, "your freedom is just a vaccine away"; does that mean that you can at once do everything you could pre-Covid, all at once, as soon as you have the haloed vaccine (both parts of it)? What was it some little bird told the BBC about "no normality until winter next year"?

Not all at once probably; but you'd be able to do more than you can now. It might be a a while before we can go back to huge events, or travelling to certain places; but just meeting friends and family safely, being able to use 'non-essential' shops and businesses freely (and therefore not seeing the economy go TOTALLY down the drain) and knowing you can get medical attention for other things without risking Covid, would be an extremely good start!

The main issue seems to be about timing and testing for most people

But majority of the public don’t realise that the reason vaccines normally take years is due to funding and ethical approval, these things take 80/90% of the time

And how long do phase III trials usually last? For past vaccines, what is the period of time between large numbers of test participants receiving the vaccine and it being rolled out to millions of members of the public?

Why would "they" keep us in?

Who knows... this vaccine has been sold since the beginning as the solution ro everything. But I'm.skeptical what can I say...

So much doesn't add up or make sense and tbh the only thing more worrying about the virus is what covid captivity has done to society in general.

I admire those who have so much faith in the honesty and reliability of the whole thing.

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