To be weary of the vaccines?

[PunkyPirate]

Will you be getting it?

Will you be allowing your children to get it?

I'm curious to peoples responses as my social media seems to be full of posts from people mocking those who will get the vaccine.

I'm by no means an anti Vaxer. Myself and my children have had all vaccinations and have the flu jab yearly. My only worry is that not enough is known about the long term side effects.

That would be fine, if it was risk free, but no vaccine is. That’s not to say they are inherently dangerous but there is a risk attached to taking them.

Therefore, to reduce that risk as far as possible, I do have vaccinations but I am sensible about it. I don’t, for example, have vaccinations for diseases such as malaria unless I planned to travel to a country where malaria was a distinct possibility because there is no benefit to me and a tiny risk.

Likewise, I won’t have the coronavirus vaccine as there is no benefit for me and a tiny risk.

As with all medical procedures, the procedure should benefit the individual.

@BloomShine

no evidence at all of long term effects

That is the point. There can’t be evidence of long term effects as the trials haven’t been going long term

There could be evidence that long term effects from vaccines were common, that there was a mechanism capable of causing damage. But there isn’t. Actual covid on the other hand...

I'm more worried about the long term damage I might suffer from when I had covid (mild symptoms but my smell hasn't come back and I'm short of breath after exercise).

So I'm def having the vaccine, I trust science and I want this to end.

Still all about you then

Likewise, I won’t have the coronavirus vaccine as there is no benefit for me and a tiny risk.

But the risk of you being seriously harmed by Covid is much greater than the risk of you being harmed by the vaccine. And is there really no-one at all in your life who is vulnerable that you’d like to protect from you?

I am seriously worried about the amount of science denial online. It takes a large number to take up the vaccine for us all to be able to be protected.

I'm getting pretty depressed that this probably won't happen.

Science denial is worrying but I think a lot of people who are scared now will be readier in a few months when they have seen other people have it.
I’ve seen various people say they want to see politicians having it first- well politicians will be having it, so that will happen.
Even the queen is supposed to be looking forward to it!

Honestly these threads are exhausting.

People claiming to have "done their research" yet say, "no way am I having the vaccine it's impossible to know the long-term effects and it's been rushed through."

Clearly you've NOT done your research. Or even read the thread.

A few months ago it was all:

"We need to learn to live with this as there's NO GUARANTEE OF A VACCINE!!!"
"There'll NEVER be a vaccine for Covid!!"
And other bollocks. This has obviously stopped now, thank fuck.

I honestly can't believe however that some posters on this thread are STILL spouting the "there's never been a vaccine for a coronavirus before." I fucking despair!

Posters saying the "don't trust our Government so they won't have the vaccine." What do people believe the Government has to do with the MANY vaccines that are in development????

And what I'd love to know, most of all, is WHAT DO THEY THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS EVIL VACCINE?

Please, enlighten me.

*they don't trust our Government

Is it really that far fetched to think that if a country is locked down over inflated numbers they even had to admit were wrong when there was clearly no way out of the situation that could be granted in good conciense having spent months emotionally blackmailing people, that there couldn't be something bigger at play?

@Whatwouldscullydo in just about every post you make you refer mysteriously to “something bigger at play” or the like, as though only you have the intelligence to understand what’s going on, but despite your very long posts you still haven’t explained what that something is. Feel free to spell it out to me as clearly I’m too dim to understand you.

I suspect that once it has been around for a bit and if travel to certain places is only allowed if you have had it, some saying they won’t will change their minds.

Someone I was talking to started off saying he wouldn’t then said actually he would if it would stop him travelling so a u turn in the space of a few minutes.

Why is that any ones business anyway?

You do what you feel is best as will everyone else.

We have a choice. For now. People will make it.

Your medical decisions are between you maybe your family and your dr. Same as everyone else. They do not need to be run past strangers on the Internet

And thanks to all the posters who are explaining so clearly the vaccination process - I honestly wouldn’t have the patience.

Take comfort in the fact that, as I’ve said before about a number of other topics, Mumsnet is NOTHING like real life.

I won't be having it, I'm always very ill with the flu vaccine so won't consider this one even though I am high risk if I get Covid, I'm housebound so will take my chances.

@Nat6999

I won't be having it, I'm always very ill with the flu vaccine so won't consider this one even though I am high risk if I get Covid, I'm housebound so will take my chances.

Crazy attitude

I suspect that once it has been around for a bit and if travel to certain places is only allowed if you have had it, some saying they won’t will change their minds.

I thought this too, many people commenting negatively online might actually do something very different in real life if not having it has restrictive consequences for them.

@TheRealJeanLouise

I mean the people developing these vaccines would have only had the education of about 2 years degree, another 2 or 3 for a specialist masters, another 3 for a PhD in the subject and then almost a lifetimes experience of working on these things but yeah, you’re definitely doing the right thing by making decisions about your health based on the thoughts of randomers on the internet.

Thank you! Some logic at last.

I think I’ll have it. No, we don’t know if there are any long-term side effects of the vaccine.

But I do know of a young adult who has suffered long-term lung damage due to Covid.

The anti-vaccine brigade will let others have the vaccine so they can test it out no doubt until they need to travel abroad or face some sort of personal restriction due to not being vaccinated.

Reminds me of the anti-MMR mummies full of shit they have read on the internet not vaccinating their little darlings until an outbreak in my children’s nursery and they all ran to vaccinate. Some people act only in their own self interest.

I'd be at the front of the queue if I could but I'm 45 so I'm at the back! I want to be able to travel again and I can see the vaccine being the only way I'll be able to

Why does that surprise you polly

I’m not trying to be deliberately inflammatory but obviously people will do what’s right and sensible for them and their DCs (I’m not talking anti vax, more generally.)

We don’t routinely donate our kidneys, for instance.

@camelscrossingthedesert, getting vaccinated against Covid is not the same as donating a kidney is it?
Of course we all need to take responsibility and see ourselves as part of wider communities and society.

WindChimeTinkle Crazy? Twice after having the flu vaccine I have ended up with pneumonia, without I never get colds or anything. It isn't compulsory for anyone to get vaccinations, it is personal choice, I have autoimmune problems & my body goes crazy if I have flu vaccine so I prefer to take the risk.

No, but the point is that people generally do put themselves and their health first and I don’t think that’s unreasonable.

Did the OP ever explain why she isn't afraid of getting the flu vaccine, which is formulated each year to try to hit a moving target, but is afraid of the Covid-19 vaccine, which has had money, science and all necessary resources thrown at it globally for almost a year?