Anyone else in South Australia? New lockdown - no exercise outside the house alloed

[bluetongue]

I must admit I was shocked at how strict this lockdown is. Most of it I can live with but I must admit I’m struggling that we’re not allowed to leave the house apart from grocery shopping - even for exercise or dog walking. Yes, they’ve told us it’s only for six days but it’s hard to know who to believe. I’m not sure I feel comfortable with this level of restriction.

The government is disappointed with the panic buying but what do they expect when we can now be stopped and questioned by Police any time we leave the house?

[alwayscrashinginthesamecar1]

I'm in Wait Awhile, so same same

[AllAussieAdventures]

Rioting, a bit hard.

Seriously though, very glad it was a 'false alarm', sort of.

[squeekums]

I just told DD school was back monday...
Poor kid, she seemed disappointing, she was hoping for lockdown holiday

[bluetongue]

Still, it is more than slightly concerning how we can all be put on house arrest based on taking the word of low paid security guards instead of actual science.

[squeekums]

stupid auto not needed correct
Disappointed

[squeekums]

@bluetongue

Still, it is more than slightly concerning how we can all be put on house arrest based on taking the word of low paid security guards instead of actual science.

it is but the scarier side is they knew of the lie and let the public keep believing it and staying in lockdown
Least they saw they jumped the gun and are now peeling it back

Remember, Marshall is a liberal under scottys thumb, he wont lock down more than needed as scotty dont like it

[bluetongue]

Very true squeekums. I was impressed they actually admitted the whole lockdown was based on that lie although I guess it would have come out eventually.

I’m still slightly concerned that questioning the exercise and dog walking ban had me treated like a Covid denier or Trump supporter by people who I had previously thought were educated and intelligent. As others have saidthough, it is a pretty conservative state.

[squeekums]

@bluetongue

Very true squeekums. I was impressed they actually admitted the whole lockdown was based on that lie although I guess it would have come out eventually.

I’m still slightly concerned that questioning the exercise and dog walking ban had me treated like a Covid denier or Trump supporter by people who I had previously thought were educated and intelligent. As others have saidthough, it is a pretty conservative state.

Ive been going with the "he under scottys thumb and scotty anti lockdown" mantra
Its helped and hopefully true lol

I wouldnt put you at that level, its wise to question, especially with how harsh and fast it happened.
I cant maintain some calm as where i am its easy to get around the harshest of restrictions

It is conservative, hell try getting abortion reform through SA parliment just to remove it from the criminal code and move it to solely medical

[AllAussieAdventures]

As I understand it (just from media reports), they thought they were dealing with a strain that had been transmitted by passing contact (picking up a pizza) and/or surface transmission (the pizza box).

If that had been the case there were hundreds of people who had been in the pizza place and if all of those people were infected with such an infectious strain...

Turns out it was just 'normal(!)' Covid, so 'normal' contact tracing should be enough to sort it out.

[TyrannyOfDistance]

My understanding is the lie was picked up at 8am today, and Marshall was up explaining it at 11.30 the same day. With first restrictions lifted immediately. Hardly prolonging the restrictions.

[IndecentFeminist]

Presumably if you hadn't have been able to work you'd have been paid?

I think that's why something as strict as was initially discussed wouldn't work in the UK. Too many people, not enough money.

[sashagabadon]

Wow! Unbelievable that the gov were willing to force people to stay home for a week on the word of one guy without triple checking his story. Seems a world of difference to me to someone buying a pizza and actually working in the pizza shop. Surely the first thing you would ask, it would be easy to prove one way or the other, employee records, payment records, tax records, double checking with the pizza store etc? Seems an extraordinary cock up to me. It totally undermines confidence

[AcornAutumn]

@bluetongue

Shame idiot that lied gets no penalty but what can you do.

My dog looks too happy asleep to take him for a walk right now though

You don’t know he lied

He wouldn’t have known the idiot officials would trigger a lockdown

You know better than to think this, surely?

[mayflowerapplepie]

@sashagabadon

Wow! Unbelievable that the gov were willing to force people to stay home for a week on the word of one guy without triple checking his story. Seems a world of difference to me to someone buying a pizza and actually working in the pizza shop. Surely the first thing you would ask, it would be easy to prove one way or the other, employee records, payment records, tax records, double checking with the pizza store etc? Seems an extraordinary cock up to me. It totally undermines confidence

If you are trying to contact trace the 6th generation of contacts of a family then you don’t have time to do that. There was a faintly plausible
explanation and he was t on the books because he was a kid working cash in hand. Then they DID go back and check because it didn’t quite line up and worked it out. But if they had waited a week to triple check the stories of 4000 people then they would have missed the boat

I don’t suppose he had any idea what he was triggering and was scared about being in trouble. I feel awful for the people who cancelled their weddings etc but I am just grateful it all came out in the wash. They did the right thing on the information they had

[TheHoneyFactory]

He wouldn’t have known the idiot officials would trigger a lockdown

no he didnt, but those "idiots" were doing what they could with the information that they had at the time. they were trying to prevent a large outbreak and avoid a prolonged shut down (and illness and death). we ve all seen what Victoria went through - why wouldnt we expect our elected officals to try and do everything they could do avoid that? (whilst the rest of Aus gets to see family/enjoy the summer)

[sashagabadon]

So you lock down thousands of people, costing hundreds of thousands of pounds, disrupting everyone’s lives and that is somehow quicker and easier than asking the pizza shop if any of the people that caught caught Covid from them, actually worked in the pizza shop making pizzas. That would take 2 mins. It is extraordinary that no one thought to do that. The very definition of a cock up surely?
And that’s on the officials not the guy that lied who presumably had no idea what a big deal it all was because no one told him!

[coldspaghettio]

that is somehow quicker and easier than asking the pizza shop if any of the people that caught caught Covid from them, actually worked in the pizza shop making pizzas. That would take 2 mins.

Are you serious? Jesus I despair.

[TyrannyOfDistance]

Suspect the guy who lied was working a cash job or possibly had a visa restricting his working hours (for fear of detention/deportation). Suddenly, we're back we started - people in insecure work who are afraid to not go to work, can't phone in sick, for whatever reason.

It must have seemed easier for a moment. Then they shut an entire state down and locked everyone in.

Not excusing it, but perhaps hard to get out of, once you've started the chain?

[MarshaBradyo]

@bluetongue

Still, it is more than slightly concerning how we can all be put on house arrest based on taking the word of low paid security guards instead of actual science.

Op what did he lie about?

I’ve read the posts but think I’m missing the obvious part

[TheHoneyFactory]

most people got "locked down" for working 2 days (1 1/2 days no exercise). those that are having to isolate for 14 days have access to $1800 worth of govt (state and fed) covid payments - not ideal but better than nothing.

this sort of situation might continue to be the norm in Aus/NZ for a while yet. if you have no community transmission - what do you do? letting it rip is not a option.
world beating contact tracing (lol) takes time - as the Nicola said today - intial interview in this situation is more along the lines of identifying do they work or have links in aged care/prisons, then they keep going round to find links... but it takes time

[TheHoneyFactory]

@sashagabadon

So you lock down thousands of people, costing hundreds of thousands of pounds, disrupting everyone’s lives and that is somehow quicker and easier than asking the pizza shop if any of the people that caught caught Covid from them, actually worked in the pizza shop making pizzas. That would take 2 mins. It is extraordinary that no one thought to do that. The very definition of a cock up surely?
And that’s on the officials not the guy that lied who presumably had no idea what a big deal it all was because no one told him!

rumour is he was off the books - paid cash in hand hence the non disclosure (from the business and the individual) and why it took time to link back his close contact to other cases.

[sashagabadon]

I am sure he was off the books. Nonetheless locking down thousands of people is a huge huge thing to do. You would think they would check with the pizza store if the guy that “caught Covid”from buying a pizza at their store actually really did what he said he did.
As the implications are huge if he caught while just popping in to buy a pizza and not so huge if he actually worked there and caught it off another guy that also worked there. I wonder if no one in authority explained the drastic implications of lying to either the pizza shop or the guy or the security guard for that matter who was obviously protecting his mate. Would have saved a whole load of hassle

[sashagabadon]

@TyrannyOfDistance

Suspect the guy who lied was working a cash job or possibly had a visa restricting his working hours (for fear of detention/deportation). Suddenly, we're back we started - people in insecure work who are afraid to not go to work, can't phone in sick, for whatever reason.

It must have seemed easier for a moment. Then they shut an entire state down and locked everyone in.

Not excusing it, but perhaps hard to get out of, once you've started the chain?

Yes exactly. Don’t blame the poor guy for lying when he probably had no idea of the implications and thought he would be in trouble, blame the officials for not checking out his story, not explaining the consequences of what he is saying and reassuring him it would not have an impact on his tax / immigration status.
Anyway I guess this is a massive lesson learned and another reason that goes to show how hard it is to get track and trace right, people don’t always tell the truth!

[bluetongue]

As for pay or compensation for time locked down it’s complicated. I’m one of the lucky ones. Government worker who won’t be out of pocket although I’m not sure what sort of leave I can use (hopefully special Covid leave we have access to).

There are various federal government payments but many businesses and employees were no longer receiving these due to most businesses running pretty close to normal. There is currently no compensation for things like all the supplies restaurants had to throw out.

The government has set up a special Police taskforce to investigate. Not sure if there’s anything more sinister going on it’s just a bit of government butt covering. We shall see.

[squeekums]

He wouldn’t have known the idiot officials would trigger a lockdown
Nah, more selfish than That.
He lied cos he was apparently on a student visa and working more hours than allowed and off books. He could be deported and honestly, he should be, screw him. He has destroyed thousands of people's plans, set us months back in restrictions. We can't even go look at a house we looking at buying cos every state has imposed quarantine measures on SA travellers
He is Adelaides most wanted right now, even 150km away, people are angry. He safer being deported