Anyone else in South Australia? New lockdown - no exercise outside the house alloed

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I must admit I was shocked at how strict this lockdown is. Most of it I can live with but I must admit I’m struggling that we’re not allowed to leave the house apart from grocery shopping - even for exercise or dog walking. Yes, they’ve told us it’s only for six days but it’s hard to know who to believe. I’m not sure I feel comfortable with this level of restriction.

The government is disappointed with the panic buying but what do they expect when we can now be stopped and questioned by Police any time we leave the house?

@echt

It was partly Australia that made me realise we were heading for tyranny across the globe

Possibly the grip shops are deemed non-essential where you are, but when they're back, do get one. Or go online and get one now.

Ridiculous frothing.

It’s okay, I found a grip when a neighbour had to talk me down from the ledge of my high rise but thank you for your kind words.

Aren’t you the one who started the support thread for bereaved spouses?

Didn't Spain do this and it was a complete fucking waste of time?

Especially as the virus finds it much harder to spread outside anyway. Nuts!

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I wish ours was stricter like that. It has a good chance of really lowering cases so it doesn’t spread.

Here we have people shopping for non essentials, breaking isolation, refusing to wear masks and SD seems to have gone out the window for many given how many have new dates, pics on SM etc. You wouldn’t think there was a lockdown.

I can't see how telling people they can't go out for exercise or to walk the dog has any impact on case transmission whatsoever. Especially as it's summer there now.

I guess 6 days is liveable with, as long as it's only 6 days. Unlike the Spanish version which was 6 weeks (and much good it did them).

Cross-posted with Mia who put it better than I did!

@Againstmachine

Looking at Australia from the UK makes me feel really scared

Someone upthread was advocating quarantening people in army barracks, that sort of think sounds like some other kind of camp to me.

Or you could go like Spain and shut kids in flats for months without being allowed outside.

Scary times we live in, where people accept, what should be unacceptable.

erm that was me and thats purely because the barracks i mentioned are actually in a pretty lovely setting rather than stuck in a shitty hotel room with no opening windows and access to outside. honestly it was a comparison to the howard springs facility being used in darwin - people have own cabins with verandas able to chat to neighbours etc,

if it makes you happier i could suggest the govt take over cabin holiday parks for people to quarantine in.... same same

We had people flooding onto the beaches in the uk once lockdown was lifted and it made no difference to cases.

It's a ridiculous decision IMO, but hey ho, not my circus not ny monkeys.

The big difference between Spain and South Australia is that we had actually eliminated Covid outside of hotel quarantine and are trying to get back to that status so not a waste of time. If successful we should hopefully go back to the relatively restriction free life we had before. Let’s see if that happens.

Only good thing about the hot weather is my wimpy whippet will be happy just lie around all day and won’t miss his walks much

@MrsMiaWallis

Didn't Spain do this and it was a complete fucking waste of time?

Especially as the virus finds it much harder to spread outside anyway. Nuts!

we have had no transmission of the virus since april. so no not a complete waste of fucking time. its giving us a chance to not become the shit show that is elsewhere. its a Auckland style shut down to break transmission. its bloody adelaide - its 3 degrees of kevin bacon - 6 days to let contact tracers do their thing, get people tested and another 8 after to get back on track.

Wish we had such rules in England - where some people think they do not have to self isolate even as it will affect them too much!
That is why Australia has such better outcomes and saves lives - strict rules, expected to be followed.
Hope it works and is not extended too long.

I love how people in the UK are convinced our human rights are destroyed and it is a slippery slope. It really isn’t. It is not some terrible tyranny.

Listen to those of us here. It is a waste of time if you are in a country where there are still uncontrolled cases. It’s not a waste of time when it means we can go back to normal.
Howard springs is NICE. It isn’t a hovel. It is like a clean self contained butlins style resort. And then you come out and life is good and there is NO fear. It’s not low numbers in most places. It’s NO numbers

Life is good here. We have been much more free than the UK (as everyone appears convinced we are in some horrible Dictatorship) If we can carry on doing what we are doing (which to be honest has been a piece of piss) for another few months we are sorted provided the vaccine provides some safety.

You can say we are lying and it is all terrible if you want but it really isn’t. Don’t compare apples with oranges.

*when I say Howard springs is a resort i mean it is like a resort. It was in fact a detention centre and I acknowledge that if you were in indefinite detention it would be in no way like a holiday resort

I love how people in the UK are convinced our human rights are destroyed and it is a slippery slope. It really isn’t. It is not some terrible tyranny

Time will tell if it's a slippery slope BUT our premier has shown he lifts restrictions as fast as they come in during first lockdown
I'm gunna think positive for now........

I may be wrong @mayflowerapplepie but I think Howard Springs was a camp for migrant workers, rather than a detention centre. Whatever, it certainly seems rather an OK place to spend a couple of weeks.

For mine, this thread has exposed some rather interesting different POVs re the handling of COVID. And, yes, as a PP said, it appears those completely unaffected are getting the most worked up.

Most Aussies would happily enjoy the safety and security of zero community transmission, I reckon. And see the temporary removal of some human rights (if that's how you wish to phrase it ) as a small price to pay for a broader continuation of a "normal" life.

Yes, SA's lockdown might be extended, and it might not 🤷🏼‍♀️. But we've bought into the idea that it's for the greater good - notwithstanding some valid discussion and criticism of the finer points.

20 days without any cases here in Vic today. Bring on three weeks tomorrow (and sorry we had to close the border!)

im more inclined to be positive too - this would have stung Marshell to bring in - being a Lib govt he has weighed up pissing off the feds (lol he does love a head pat from scotty) and the actual risks to the population and our future. i think hes done the right thing for the circumstances as they stand.

WA will give us the cold shoulder for months now tho... (im so sad about this)

My family are in ADL and they are supportive of the restrictions. Looking at my social media and speaking to a couple of friends it seems to me there is still very much THE FEAR that us in the UK had in March, even shaming of people out for beach walks by posting photos on fb.
Complacency had set in recently; my parents stopped going out much a couple of months ago as they said social distancing had gone out the window, they didn't feel safe. Watching what was happening in the UK and in Melbourne (where dbro is) they were well aware it could flare up at any time so have chosen to stay cautious. They are wfh so it's easy for them.
That said, I'm pretty horrified at the level of restrictions both in Adelaide and Melbourne and have been concerned at the treatment of Australians stuck overseas (or indeed, trying to leave Aus) over the last few months.

yes THE FEAR is very much still a motivating force.

I may be wrong @mayflowerapplepie but I think Howard Springs was a camp for migrant workers, rather than a detention centre. Whatever, it certainly seems rather an OK place to spend a couple of weeks

Ah apologies you are right I think!

Aren’t you the one who started the support thread for bereaved spouses

I have no idea what you're on about. Or its relevance to this thread.

Just been reading about this online...

''A ban on exercise, crazy fines and only 22 Covid cases – welcome to Australia's latest lockdown'
Robert Fenwick Elliott sounds off about Australia's lockdown, saying:

South Australia is going into full lockdown as of midnight tonight.

This is the response to the latest “surge” in the disease, a cluster of 22 Covid-19 cases in Adelaide. Two new cases – just two – were diagnosed in the State today. There are no reports that either have any symptoms, or are actually ill.

In addition, another two people are in hospital having tested positive recently. Just two. Neither is in intensive care. But hey mate, hospital is hospital! No one has died recently, but in total since January, four people in South Australia have lost their lives to Covid. In an average year, this State registers about 13,500 deaths."

Sounds a bit crazy, feel sorry for you out there...

I don’t have the fear but you have to be careful who you admit that to.. Questioning the exercise and dog walking ban at my state government office probably wasn’t my smartest moment...

On the subject of dog walking, walking your dog to the supermarket is apparently okay. I’m not sure that walking dogs in hot weather and leaving them tied up alone out the front of the supermarket is something that should be encouraged. My boy will be staying home despite a supermarket being a 10 minute walk from my place.

It does seem a bit of an over reaction but that is what happens with an elimination strategy. Even one case is one case too many I guess and needs a harsh response.
I am glad Europe has not gone for such a strategy as it would have been impossible anyway. Even if we had achieved it in the spring, we would not have been able to sustain it and would be having our first wave about now, the worst time of year for us. Australia is in their spring so much better time of year to achieve elimination plus the vaccine will likely be rolled out there before their winter.
It is very interesting to look at all these different strategies, it seems to me no strategy is obviously the best and no strategy is obviously the worst as so many variables and factors to consider.

I sure I read on a SAPOL post that if you haven’t access to a garden then taking your dog out to toilet is fine.

I do think it’s a bit rich that non Australians are frothing about our lack of freedom, when we have much more freedom to live a normal life here, as we are after all, practically Covid free. I’m sure most people here prefer a couple of weeks of strict lockdown if it brings community transmission down to zero, as they did in Victoria. Compared to the absolute shit show that my UK family is having to live through, I certainly know what I prefer. Adelaide hadzero cases today, so hopefully soon they will be able to re open and enjoy their lives, mask free, going out enjoying a normal life again, and going to the beach with their loved ones on Xmas day as normal.

I can see why. I can also see difference between here and family in Aus.

If it’s so short rather than Melbourne length then easier to get it over early and to the other side.

I’m sure most people here prefer a couple of weeks of strict lockdown if it brings community transmission down to zero, as they did in Victoria

Yeah, that's what we said in March 😅