Worried about post Christmas peak

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Anyone else who believes in this Virus think it's going to be horrific and things will be much worse in the new year? People going all over the country, getting blind drunk etc etc... The majority of people even following the rules now will throw them out the window because they are so Covid Tired...

[quote TipTapTip]@KitKatastrophe yes CEV[/quote]
All of you? Well that's supremely unlucky.
Luckily for you even the ECV of advanced age have a good survival rate, and that's if you even catch covid, which if you're being really careful and only getting deliveries, is also extremely unlikely.

Shuddawuddacudda

Oh FFs. Stop scaremongering. We're not even out of lockdown yet and here you are like chicken bloody licken telling us the sky is going to fall. Get a life and stop annoying people. Such melodrama!

Maybe she’s anxious and scared? How is that melodramatic.? I agree with it.

Maybe she’s anxious and scared? How is that melodramatic.? I agree with it.
Calling people murderers and saying that half her family will die and that people will lose their children is all melodramatic.

@TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince

Shuddawuddacudda

Oh FFs. Stop scaremongering. We're not even out of lockdown yet and here you are like chicken bloody licken telling us the sky is going to fall. Get a life and stop annoying people. Such melodrama!

Maybe she’s anxious and scared? How is that melodramatic.? I agree with it.

She's incredibly rude though and aggressive. There's no need for that however anxious someone is.

Being anxious is no excuse to call people murderers for worrying about jobs

Good grief, we have failed miserably to protect people in care homes, yet somehow it's the responsibility of the CEV to magically protect themselves ? Get real.

As for the economy, the countries that have the biggest economic drops are the ones with the most deaths

So go back to normal, kill a few people and do yourself out of a job at the same time. Great idea

Also a bit ridiculous. The virus will be with us for a long time. What does op want everyone to do, lock down forever? Yes the CEV might get a vaccine in the next 6 months but the rest of us won’t. I very much doubt half the ops family are CEV, unless there’s only two people in their family! I’m certainly not going to abide by harsh restrictions until the whole population is vaccinated.

I doubt very much whether you'll lose half your family OP. Have a look at the actual risks instead of being scared to death by it. I know lots of people who've had covid now including some elderly and/or vulnerable people and they've mostly had a mild illness. Only one person I know has died from it and she was 96.

Covid is currently spreading fastest in secondary schools, I think that's what needs to be closing at the moment. I think an extended Christmas break with online learning would be a good idea.

I'd hope people with vulnerable family members (and that includes me) will continue to be careful and limit contact. A friend of mine has even erected an outdoor shelter at her elderly parents' house next to their window so their family can visit safely and sit outside.

Also important are the mental health effects of not seeing family/being in lockdown (and I know they've been mentioned on here many times) but seriously three people have committed suicide in my small town in the last week, all of them young people who just couldn't take anymore. There is more to life than just covid.

People are losing their livelihoods as a result of protecting the vulnerable so let's not start throwing murderous accusations around when we are all sacrificing things for others in one way or another.
Providing for my family is more important to me than some randoms vulnerable relatives equally said randoms vulnerable relative is more important to them than knowing if my family has a roof over their head or food in their bellies. We all have our own priorities and every single one of us is suffering in some way due to covid.

I'm worried about loosing half my family and my own life I think that trumps jobs

Not to the people who have lost their jobs it doesn't. Why are you being so gloomy?

I'm worried about loosing half my family and my own life I think that trumps jobs

I've lost both parents and my job this year. My sister and I are spending Christmas day together at her house where we will try, just for 1 day, to have a teeny tiny bit of joy. As for calling those of us whose loved ones have died of covid, "murderers"....well thanks for that, it's just what we need on top of the grief.

Doesn't it depend on how and what restrictions are relaxed? It was my understanding that we would be reverting to the tier system meaning it would not be back to normal for Christmas or at least not initially for all with maybe a little relaxation on things for Christmas itself. I really cannot see a free for all around New Years as most fireworks and celebrations have long been cancelled.

Yep, there will be another lockdown in the new year.

I’m more bothered about the long-term effects if I (or family/friends) caught it.

Obviously most people aren’t going to die from it but it’s really worrying hearing about younger and previously healthy people that are still struggling months after having it. I’d certainly be concerned for my job if I’d been off sick for 6 months. We still don’t know whether any of the lasting effects could be permanent.

I’m happy to continue with social distancing and mixing as little as possible if it means I can avoid my family and I catching it but I fully appreciate people are getting tired of the restrictions.

@NotAKaren

Doesn't it depend on how and what restrictions are relaxed? It was my understanding that we would be reverting to the tier system meaning it would not be back to normal for Christmas or at least not initially for all with maybe a little relaxation on things for Christmas itself. I really cannot see a free for all around New Years as most fireworks and celebrations have long been cancelled.

You’re right it’s not going to be back to normal for Christmas. But there are many people, myself included, who will be seeing family anyway.

"Oh FFs. Stop scaremongering."

People said that when posters said

Covid would spread from younger age groups to older ones at the end of summer.
Covid word spread in schools, particularly secondaries.

If is quite clear that when lockdown finishes on 2 December cases could rise again and based on October could double between then and Xmas. Most likely quite a lot of areas will end up back in tier 3 or maybe something stricter like Scotland's tier 4.

Lots of people are saying the large jump in cases over the last few days is possibly due to pre lockdown socialising. In a way this is comforting in that it means tier 3 and lockdown will probably work to stabilise and reduce cases.

In another it is worrying because that socialising was nothing compared to the spike that Xmas and new years's could cause.

The op is entitled to be anxious about it seeing as her family could be vulnerable or elderly for all we know.

I agree with you that it’s going to be difficult in January.
However , I don’t agree with you that people will catch it in supermarkets and deliveries abs die. It’s been investigated and proof that the virus is more contagious airborne than because you touch something. So if you want to protect you and your family use the mask when you’re out and when you meet your family. That’s one of the best ways to protect. Or keep your social bubbles as small as possible.

Also I don’t agree with you that losing a job is nothing. COVID it’s bringing loads of families into poverty , poverty brings death as well. Also COVID is the reason why many people are dying because of other reasons and are being refuse treatment. So , COVID is not the only reason why people are dying nowadays. In fact there are others that kill more.

Also. Stop calling others murderers. You don’t know who is on the other side of the keyboard and what they’re going through.

I'm worried about loosing half my family and my own life I think that trumps jobs

You are so blase about people losing thier jobs, you do realise that no money = no food, no home and no contributions to the health service you and your family use? If you can't give a shit about other people, don't expect them to give a shit about you.

The op is entitled to be anxious about it seeing as her family could be vulnerable or elderly for all we know.

Nobody is entitled to be rude, obnoxious and aggressive.

I was going to say that you had a point OP, it's probably going to get worse over winter and it's not a comfortable thought, but then you started calling people murderer's and that's a pretty extreme thing to say. No one is setting out with the intention to kill someone and most people are sticking to the restrictions even if they complain about it.

[quote TipTapTip]@wildbarnet I'm worried about loosing half my family and my own life I think that trumps jobs[/quote]
And how do you think the nhs to save those lives will be paid for if no one has jobs ?

[quote TipTapTip]@User158340 exactly. Problem is that it will spread thanks to all those like Wild Barnet and that will spread to the vulnerable when they go food shopping, have deliveries etc etc[/quote]
Excuse me ???? I am not spreading it !!! I careful and don't see my vulnerable parents but my mum going into depression for the 1st time at 72 is more important to me !!!!! I am not living in fear I am careful
Obviously you are financially secure ?!

@Racoonworld

Also a bit ridiculous. The virus will be with us for a long time. What does op want everyone to do, lock down forever? Yes the CEV might get a vaccine in the next 6 months but the rest of us won’t. I very much doubt half the ops family are CEV, unless there’s only two people in their family! I’m certainly not going to abide by harsh restrictions until the whole population is vaccinated.

Social distancing measures, restrictions and masks will be needed at least until the vulnerable are vaccinated which will be well into next year,

As soon as we move away from these measures (schools/university halls in September) cases skyrocket and then the vulnerable catch it and fall ill.

If the country relax for Christmas and new year and restrictions and distancing goes out the window then we'll be in a bad place from Jan to March and will be looking at more lockdowns.

Surely NYE parties will be banned though?

@Shuddawuddacudda

Oh FFs. Stop scaremongering. We're not even out of lockdown yet and here you are like chicken bloody licken telling us the sky is going to fall. Get a life and stop annoying people. Such melodrama!

Spot on