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Worried that the military and NHS are on standby to deliver vaccines

742 replies

BurningRose · 10/11/2020 18:09

Just heard this on the BBC news at 6.Does this mean the military will be injecting people? Will it be mandatory for certain groups? This is rather worrying.

OP posts:
eaglejulesk · 10/11/2020 19:09

I despair at how some people lack even a shred of common sense! What do you imagine the military are going to do OP? Force their way into your house and pin you down to vaccinate you - you are being ridiculous. Obviously they are being brought in to deal with logistics, which they are very good at, and to help administer the vaccine, as medical professionals are a tad busy at present.

No-one is going to force you to be vaccinated. However, if you aren't and then find you can't travel to some countries, or attend some events, and if you get covid again - despite your "immunity" - then you will have to deal with it like an adult, as there will be no-one to blame but yourself.

BlueJava · 10/11/2020 19:09

The Pfizer vaccine needs to be transported at -80C. I don’t wish the local Hermes driver screw that one up

Grin This is so, so true @letmethinkaboutitfornow Around here Hermes have a reputation for lobbing things over the communal gate, I think vaccines will need more accuracy than that.

SparklyOwl · 10/11/2020 19:09

@mumwon

(bit worried about vets they might want to give injections - um - elsewhere Grin)
It’s just them taking your temperature you need to worry about! Grin
CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/11/2020 19:10

And can I just say, OP, you would be the FIRST person crying with gratitude at the military turning up to rescue you in a flood or other disaster.....

But you know, you go ahead and let them fit your narrative.....

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 10/11/2020 19:11

@Ted27

Of the three people at the press conference on Monday, I would put most trust in the Brigadir
Yes, he was definitely the grown-up in the room!
topcat2014 · 10/11/2020 19:11

I think you may be mixing us up with China OP

SimonJT · 10/11/2020 19:11

“Mess with your DNA”

You aren’t being injected with polonium. The sun however does mess with DNA, so make sure you never ever expose your skin to it.

Aragog · 10/11/2020 19:11

@BurningRose

Guys... Can you think clearly for a minute? If you think natural immunity fades that quickly, what magic ingredient in vaccines makes immunity last longer? It's mimicking the same process as if you catch the disease.
That's not how all vaccines work.
Greenglassteacup · 10/11/2020 19:12

Nobody is going to forcibly inject you against your will Confused

Isthatitnow · 10/11/2020 19:13

My 12 year old type 1 diabetic injects himself a minimum of 4 times a day. As do thousands of other type 1s. Are they trained medical,professionals?

Amiable · 10/11/2020 19:13

I am sure they would not just have any young grunt injecting people! The military is brilliant at logistics, and have many excellent medical staff who could be co-opted to offer injections if needed.

It is a fact that military medicine is incredibly innovative, and the benefits have been passed on to the NHS and other medical services worldwide. I for one would be more than happy to get an injection from a military doctor.

Happyheartlovelife · 10/11/2020 19:13

@RoseAndRose

It would be illegal for an untrained non-medical person to inject vaccines

Can you cite the law for that?

Because I think there is no such law, and any person can do this. And indeed do - lay people inject their DC, people inject themselves, pharmacists both dispense and administer

Sorry. I don’t know who said the first but of the quote. Who said it’s illegal for an untrained person to give injections

This is wrong. Mine and many others injections are actually protected in law. Meaning that the person who gives it. Can’t have the person who they gave it to sue them.

TheRealJeanLouise · 10/11/2020 19:14

Mess with your DNA

Bwahaha! How did I miss this bit?! 😂

DameCelia · 10/11/2020 19:14

@BurningRose please have my first ever grip.
You need it.
Hmm

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 10/11/2020 19:14

While only doctors and nurse prescribers can prescribe a vaccine, in regards to administering anyone who has been trained up to do vaccinations can do it ie healthcare assistants, nursing associates etc.

In regards to the army, they have doctors and nurses in their ranks who are more than capable of helping roll out the massive undertaking which the covid vaccine will be.

QueenPaws · 10/11/2020 19:14

I think if you haven't really had medication, or health issues I can get why it's a bit scary
My meds I draw up myself and inject weekly
Am about to start on a drug that has a black box warning (or something), risk of anaphylactic reaction so have to be monitored in hospital, increased risk of developing cancer and a few other things. Most people would see that and run but my life is so limited that this drug could be life changing so I'm happy to take the risk
My current drug gives me a fever, headache, uncontrollable shivering, nausea, fainting, bone pain... but if I don't take it I'll get really unwell. Same for the covid vaccine, I need to have it as I'm ECV

VinylDetective · 10/11/2020 19:14

Does this mean the military will be injecting people?

Quite possibly since all three services include doctors and nurses.

gungholierthanthou · 10/11/2020 19:15

This is the funniest post I've read today 😂

keeprocking · 10/11/2020 19:15

@Shaniac

No it wont be manditory it would have to go through a lot of processes to be legally allowed to be used against peoples will.

But, whats wrong with the military administering injections if it came to it?

They managed to deliver my two babies safely, I'm sure they can give a jab if asked to!! The simple reality is that their role will be logistics, they have a whole Corps devoted to it!
Unsure33 · 10/11/2020 19:15

You don’t trust the government ?

It’s an American vaccine and the government won’t make you have it .

And I know someone who has had covid twice as well .

You could always go and give plasma and then your antibodies will be measured ?

Everything has a risk so of course it’s up to you to decide on that risk . But please do your research first .

SparklyOwl · 10/11/2020 19:15

@BurningRose

But without the, you know, risk of choking to death, blood clots or lung fibrosis.

But with, you know, added risks of vaccine injury and side effects or messing with your dna.

In all seriousness I think you would probably benefit from learning about how vaccines work and how easy they are to administer.

The reason doctors, nurses etc won’t be giving the vaccinations is because they are much too busy actually helping to save the lives of those with covid and other illnesses. It doesn’t mean those who will be giving the vaccinations won’t be competent and capable of safely doing so (eg paramedics will canulate and inject medications all the time).

Unless you are clinically extremely vulnerable or elderly, the almost certainly is that the vaccination will have been in use for upwards to a couple of years or more before it’s your turn. That’s plenty of time for any concerns to have been picked up on.

Mistletroll · 10/11/2020 19:15

I'd rather a nurse do it as many of them have a knack of sticking it in before you even realise it with no pain Grin

I don't mind if I am crown managed and then ushered into a camouflage tent by a handsome 20-something soldier or two Wink

Pandamanium · 10/11/2020 19:16

There's plenty of health professional with the military.

There's plenty of non-medically trained people who are competent at given injections.

KarlKennedysDurianFruit · 10/11/2020 19:16

A lot of people administer their own insulin, lots of women have to administer heparin after birth, none of them given anything more than a leaflet. I'm pretty sure if needed military personnel could administer a vaccine, and there are medical personnel in the armed forces, but they're more likely to be involved in logistics. YABU

mpsw · 10/11/2020 19:16

I would love for it to be administered by the SA80

That has to be one of the most perverted things I've ever read!