If the vaccine was immediately available for everyone - would you have it?

[Dinosaur19]

Not after an argument I’m just genuinely wondering! I have spoken to two friends and one would have it and one wouldn’t. If the vaccine (still with 90% effectivity) was available for everyone in the UK, would you have it straight away?

No. It's been rushed. I'd have it in 10 year's time. Until then I'd rather get the virus.

No

Yes, absolutely!

Yes, like a shot!

NO

Yes. Had the virus, don't want it again.

Yes

Yes, for the common good but with a degree of trepidation.

@WiseUpJanetWeiss

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Definitely not this soon. Vaccines require years of thorough testing, whilst this is hugely encouraging and great news of progress we all really needed to hear, I'd need to see a lot more detail on how this has been tested and what the potential side effects might be.
I really don’t understand this approach. Are you in any way competent to assess a licensing submission? Would you even understand it? I know I’d struggle and this is close to my area of expertise.

The regulators (MHRA and their counterparts in other countries) receive a massive dossier for scrutiny before the medicine is approved. Fair enough if you don’t trust the MHRA (I do), but trusting your own research above theirs is a bit barmy.

I didn't state I was an expert in infectious disease no... would I understand a licensing submission? I could tell you without reading it but if I had difficulty thus would clearly inform me I needed further info...
What I am sure of though is that trials having only commenced in July if this year are yet to identify long term effects and I'd like to know more detail about the volume of those trialled, the demographic involved and results. All quite clear and valid concerns regarding a virus we didn't even know to exist a year ago- I don't consider this barmy, rather a healthy caution which I'm entitled to hold.

Not yet.

I feel like in March someone strapped an almost unbearably heavy weight to me and said you have to carry that until we get to end. But no-one can tell me where the end is. The news that a vaccine may be available within the next couple of months literally made my heart sing. It felt like I could finally see the destination, although I can't put the weights down yet I know that I will be able to soon. I can envision a day when I can see my family again. I can see a way that various friends who run their own businesses will be able get back to work and that I might manage to cling on to my job. Of course there is a small risk to any new vaccine but there is also risk that several elderly family members wouldn't survive covid. There is a big risk that lots of people I care about will lose their jobs and their homes. My question early wasn't to judge to anyone I was try to see if there was another way to "lighten the load" to "see the final destination". If large percentage of people think that a fast tracked vaccine isn't the solution and decline it then the relative safety of herd immunity won't be reached quickly and many of the social and economic consequences will potentially remain so it puts a big hill in between me and destination and finally being free of this crushing weight.

Definitely not, especially whilst breastfeeding. Who knows how it could affect you in years to come?

No, because I’ve already had Covid

Yes

Yes

What Dig said.

Hmm, unsure. I'm a Covid long hauler and have considerable ongoing health issues left over from when I had the acute infection in March. I would need some sort of cast iron guarantee that the vaccine wouldn't make these worse.

Yes. I would want to see the trial data but 99% yes.

I'd rather take my chances on a new vaccine that has been through a trial than an new disease that we do not know the long term effects from. Also it's the way for society to reopen again.

I'm low risk and have had some weird issues with medicines in the past, so I wouldn't leap to have it. I imagine it's fine though. My dad will have it as he is a front line worker and also has some health problems, so hopefully he will be able to see us after he has it.

So, I think at the moment, I say NO. But might change my mind. Hope mumsnet polls arena legally binding .

No. Normally vaccines take about 4 years to be thoroughly tested and it bothers me that this one has been rushed through so quickly.
Also I want to know what happened to the two women who were talking part in the trials who got transverse myelitis.
I’ve got two friends with it and it’s not a stable condition.
With each flare up over the years they have lost more bodily functions.
So, apart from being paralysed in the beginning from about the waist down one is now experiencing loss of function in her hands and the other one has horrendous problems and yes has also lost a lot more of her body functions and suffers tremendous neurology pain and weighs next to nothing as eating can set off severe vomiting.

These people on the trial may be one in a million , but who wants to be that one, especially as there’s no compensation to buy you a bungalow, an adapted car, carers etc.

Also as vaccines become less effective as you get older it may not be terribly effective anyway.

I would need to know a lot more about it first .

For those of you that have been praying for it, I’m pleased you got your wish.

Yes

I feel like in March someone strapped an almost unbearably heavy weight to me and said you have to carry that until we get to end. But no-one can tell me where the end is. The news that a vaccine may be available within the next couple of months literally made my heart sing.

That's just how I feel although with minor reservations. On the one hand it seems very quick for the trials to have gone through but conversely we've never had unlimited resources thrown at a disease like this so of course the results will have come to fruition very quickly.

Not a chance

Where have you heard that there were two, Dowser? I have only heard about one.

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel - the other one was on the placebo.

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

Here
www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-safety-blueprints.html