If the vaccine was immediately available for everyone - would you have it?

[Dinosaur19]

Not after an argument I’m just genuinely wondering! I have spoken to two friends and one would have it and one wouldn’t. If the vaccine (still with 90% effectivity) was available for everyone in the UK, would you have it straight away?

For me-yes probably. For my children-No. It’s not been tested for long enough on developing bodies which makes me hesitant to agree to a vaccine for my children yet.

Medicines regulation has moved on a bit since the 1950s.

Apart from the fact that the government have changed the regulations to support the roll out of the covid vaccination. Not that it's necessarily an issue. But it's certainly worth being aware of this when people are weighing up the pros and cons for themselves.

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines

For my children-No. It’s not been tested for long enough on developing bodies which makes me hesitant to agree to a vaccine for my children yet.

It won’t be available to children precisely because it hasn’t been tested on them.

Yes. Pick an arm and let's go lol.

Yes - in a heart beat!

If it was literally available tomorrow then no, because I'm pregnant. I'd wait until the baby was born in Feb. After that, absolutely!

No

No. Not unless it was mandatory to travel. Vaccine side effects can take years to become apparent.

No.

Yes. I'm cv and work in a school
I am slowly recovering from covid, caught at school most likely, and in my 5th week of absence and likely to need to take medication for life as a result of covid complications. No,idea how long immunity will last, if I have some, so more than willing to take a vaccine to avoid getting it again.

Dh and 18y dd are willing and happy to be vaccinated too. They're not overly,concerned for themselves about getting covid, but wouldn't want to unknowingly pass it on to others who are vulnerable. Dh often works with elderly and vulnerable clients, plus for dh and dd we have older and vulnerable relatives.

For those concerned about the speed of this vaccine and worried what that means for safety...

It might be worth reading up a but on how and why this vaccine has been able to get through quicker, that they weren't starting from scratch, how funding and efforts have been prioritises, why other c]vaccines can take longer, how trials have taken place, etc.

Infact as many people across the population have such concerns it would probably be good for the government to address this aspect further, maybe with general public broadcasting awareness campaigns/programmes on to, etc,

@Dinosaur19

How would other countries enforce a ‘no entry unless vaccinated’ rule if it came down to it?

This is already the case for some countries and illnesses, as far as I'm aware.

When I had the yellow fever vaccine to travel to Africa I was given a small yellow 'passport' card detailing when it was done and for how long. This was 20 odd years ago, so probably changed how it works now.

I can easily imagine the covid vaccine being an entry requirement for some countries, perhaps with some medical exemptions. As so much is done electronically now it would be possible. Maybe linked to things like the electronic ESTA systems they have for US entry, etc.

Personally I'm still looking back at the h1n1 (swine flu?) Vaccine and narcolepsy cases. Just feel like I'd rather take my chance on covid because I know more about the risks of it at this point.

@SomewhereEast

My answer is kind of a no, because it would be completely insane if healthy 40 year olds like me are vaccinated any time soon.

One reason why it will be given to everyone, if possible with quantities/time scales, is in order to protect those who are vulnerable but not medically able to have the vaccine.

Not everyone is able to have all vaccines, due to a range of medical issues. Also initially children may not be able to have this vaccine, even CEV ones potentially, as licensing etc is different for children. So I order to protect them it needs more of the general public to be vaccinated, which will reduce its spread even more.

Hence dh and 18y dd will hope to have the vaccine when they are eligible. Dh works with elderly and vulnerable clients, dd is training to become a teacher. Some of those clients/children will be vulnerable to covid but may not be able to have the vaccine themselves. They will have it to protect others.

Nope, it's way too soon

My understanding is that our plan is not to vaccinate healthy under 50s - unlike Germany and anew Zealand who are planning to vaccinate everyone.

I'm pro-vaccine and wouldn't touch this with a barge pole. I'll stick with vitamin D (there's now plenty of peer reviewed research to confirm it's protective for most against worst effects of virus - vs none so far for the big pharma vaccine) and take my chances.

Yes definitely

Yes

Yes absolutely!

@EllenRipley

I'm pro-vaccine and wouldn't touch this with a barge pole. I'll stick with vitamin D (there's now plenty of peer reviewed research to confirm it's protective for most against worst effects of virus - vs none so far for the big pharma vaccine) and take my chances.

If your problem is with the lack of peer review are we to understand that once the extensive third stage testing reported yesterday IS peer reviewed you will change your position?

@MarmiteCrumpet25

My understanding is that our plan is not to vaccinate healthy under 50s - unlike Germany and anew Zealand who are planning to vaccinate everyone.

The JCVI has indicated that plans have not yet been developed, not that it won’t happen. I would take zero notice of what venture capitalist Kate Bingham has said.

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel
The current peer reviewed vaccine research/testing only covers its immediate efficacy, pre-rollout, in relation to catching covid. I'm rather more interested in longer term safety data, particularly with an RNA vaccine that's administered on a large scale. Pfizer doesn't have a great track record either.

@DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes

I asked a few pages pages back and no-one has answered for those that say nope, no way what do think should happen? Life back to normal and live with the covid death toll whatever it may be? Years of restrictions and lockdowns? Regular testing for everyone and not being allow on planes/trains/ into sporting events/theatres/ gigs without a resent negative test? How do you see life without mass vaccination?

To be honest, I'm completely past caring.

No to the vaccine question from me, DH (CEV) and DM (89 and CEV).

I don’t undertake. For everyone saying how safe it will be etc as the data is being collected. Presumably this is short term safety? I appreciate that we can’t do long te safety studies and that is a risk we take but equally I’m appalled at the shutting down of debate.

There was a chap in radio two just now talking authoritatively about “facts” relating to science and “opinion”. I was appalled at how arrogant he sounded. It is surely a fact that we don’t know long term what this particular vaccine will do?

No wonder there are vaccine sceptics!