If the vaccine was immediately available for everyone - would you have it?

[Dinosaur19]

Not after an argument I’m just genuinely wondering! I have spoken to two friends and one would have it and one wouldn’t. If the vaccine (still with 90% effectivity) was available for everyone in the UK, would you have it straight away?

Yes, I'd have the Pfizer, Oxford or Imperial vaccines if and when approved by the UK Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation. I haven't read enough about the others yet to say yes, but if approved I'd most likely go ahead with any. If there were to be a choice by the time we get to that stage, then Imperial is the one I'd most want to have, I think the RNA approach is likely to give fewer side effects than the old-school methods of piggy-backing from another virus (adenovirus for covid).

No. I'll wait about 10 years to see the long term side effects

Yes

You should have do a aibu poll to get numbers.

Yep. Having worked for years in drug development with many friends still there trying to save the plant from this virus, I would be at the front of the queue.

No

Thing is, it's either have the vaccine or take you chances against covid. I can't imagine any side effects from a vaccine would be a greater risk to me than covid would.

No

Yes.

SO the Brazilian vaccine just got suspended after adverse effect edition.cnn.com/2020/11/10/health/brazil-suspends-china-vaccine-trials-intl-hnk/index.html
And for those who want to hear more about the Pfizer one

Yes - NHS so guessing I’ll be in line for it anyway . As soon as my travel vacc place stocks it I’ll be paying for my DP to have it . DD has had Covid but if the recommendation is for those who have had it to still receive a vaccine then she can join him .

Question for those saying no to the vaccine.

Do you think the vaccine is a greater danger to you than catching covid would?

What's the death rate from covid?

@KenDodd we have no way of knowing this yet unfortunately. Normally would take years and years of thorough testing before a vaccine is released for public use and it does worry me this is not happening here or worse a repeat of the ‘cutter incident’.

@KenDodd

Question for those saying no to the vaccine.

Do you think the vaccine is a greater danger to you than catching covid would?

Yes. Based partly on the fact that I am sure I had covid mildly during wave 1 (when there was no testing for people like me). I am in a low risk group and I believe this was borne out in practice. I prefer letting my body fight things without help where possible.

Yes.

No.

I can understand people in at risk groups wanting it but it’s not something I’m going to rush out for.

I think life is going to return to normal for most people with or without the vaccine. Fear will linger for some but, as has been the case for many things in the past, we’ll adapt and learn to live with it. Honestly, I think we would probably be closer to getting on with things and learning to live with it if we weren’t getting a running commentary on every case/death plastered all over every news site and social media outlet.

No. No one knows if there are potential long term side effects with it yet

No

Science technician here - article in New Scientist 29th August 2020 by Michael Le Page. Sorry unable to link it.

Do you think the vaccine is a greater danger to you than catching covid would?

It's impossible to say isn't it. The vaccine won't have been around long enough to weigh it up. Regardless I am not so worried about catching covid as others might be. That doesn't mean that I would go out of my way to catch it, I wouldn't, but I rarely go near other people anyway, I work from home, and life hasn't particularly changed for me. So personally, I don't see the need for me to have a vaccine, which I don't particularly want, under my personal set of circumstances. Perhaps if my life / work was different I would reconsider. People have the right to weigh up the decision for themselves according to their own circumstances.

fuck yes

Not personally as my risk from covid is very low, my risk of spreading is relatively low (work from home and follow guidance), but the risk from a brand new vaccine is also very low but not zero.

If my health changed, or I moved jobs to one where I'd be at a higher risk of spreading it then absolutely. I'd hope my vulnerable parents would take it, but also wouldn't be giving it to my kids until it's been around a bit longer.

It's all about weighing the risks and benefits.

[quote Tadpolesandfroglets]@KenDodd we have no way of knowing this yet unfortunately. Normally would take years and years of thorough testing before a vaccine is released for public use and it does worry me this is not happening here or worse a repeat of the ‘cutter incident’.[/quote]
Medicines regulation has moved on a bit since the 1950s.

[quote Tadpolesandfroglets]@KenDodd we have no way of knowing this yet unfortunately. Normally would take years and years of thorough testing before a vaccine is released for public use and it does worry me this is not happening here or worse a repeat of the ‘cutter incident’.[/quote]
You are right....it can take a decade to complete all phases from prototype development, animal trials, Phase 1, 2 & 3, regulatory approval, mass production and public access.